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Submerging before battle?

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@surfer Thank you, very interesting.

It doesn’t exactly answer my questions, but still.

So to summarize (or rephrase) about your example:
the initial plan is not blocked: it is still allowed to ignore the sub in SZ 42 during CM, and to load the Java unit and offload it to Philippines during NCM (sub don’t make a SZ hostile, so loading is allowed) but the japanese sub cannot be attacked (neither by warships in SZ 42, nor by neighboring fleets) without cancelling the transport’s ability to follow the plan (non-combat amphibious move)
Is that correct? And additionally, this all becomes irrelevant if the allies transport already carries units, right? (in that case, it can move during CM to avoid the battle with sub, and offload during NCM)

Sorry to say that this all sounds like an exploit… None of the detailed steps are - per se - forbidden by the rules. But the total manoeuver is disrupted because of its chronology - most probably not something that was initially intended.
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AA Classic TGC (Allies) vs Ragnell (Axis) - Restricted Attack, No New Complexes, No Tech, No Neutrals

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Round: 19 Purchase Units - British British buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Libya to French Equatorial Africa 1 bomber moved from Libya to French Equatorial Africa 1 fighter moved from Libya to French Equatorial Africa 1 infantry moved from Libya to French Equatorial Africa Combat - British Battle in French Equatorial Africa British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in French Equatorial Africa, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in French Equatorial Africa, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Equatorial Africa British win, taking French Equatorial Africa from Japanese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 7 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 1 carrier and 4 transports moved from Karelia Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 1 carrier, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Algeria 1 bomber moved from French Equatorial Africa to Russia 1 fighter moved from French Equatorial Africa to South Europe 2 fighters moved from Libya to Russia 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 8 infantry moved from Libya to Algeria Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
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Japanese regular : 0.33 British regular : 0.33
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@Amon-Sul said in BM4 Fasthard (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +15):

I dont know if i ever saw 10 units build in Northern Italy

Italy prepares for the to welcome of the US ;-)
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barnee vs VictoryFirst EXP Boxes Game 4

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So start of Combat Move
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@surfer np! Playing for pleasure 🙂
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from Greece to 92 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Greece to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine Combat - Germans Americans scrambles 1 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 91 Sea Zone Battle in 92 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers British defend with 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Americans defend with 1 transport 2 submarines owned by the British submerged Germans roll dice for 2 bombers in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 92 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 91 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines British defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Germans retreated to 104 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines Battle in Ukraine Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Ukraine : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ukraine, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Moving scrambled unit from 91 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Germans 2 bombers moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 aaGun, 9 armour, 11 artilleries, 21 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Belarus 1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Novgorod 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland Place Units - Germans 3 armour placed in Novgorod 3 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 infantry placed in France 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5 Germans collect 49 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 49 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 1.67 Russians regular : 1.00 Germans regular : -1.00 Russians AA : 0.50 British regular : -0.33
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D-Day, TGC (Allies) vs VictoryFirst (German)

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 11
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 11 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 6 fighters moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from 108 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Marshall Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 3 destroyers moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory 7 Sea Zone Battle in 113 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 5.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 7 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in Marshall Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Marshall Islands 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Marshall Islands Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 fighter moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Marshall Islands to Wake Island 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island 3 submarines moved from 27 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 9 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 9 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 100 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 108 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 transport moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island 1 submarine moved from 59 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 harbour placed in Wake Island 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Hopei 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Hopei 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Chahar 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Combat - Chinese Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Chinese attack with 3 artilleries and 7 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 artilleries and 7 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 3 artilleries and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Honan Chinese attack with 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Honan Chinese win, taking Honan from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hopei to Inner Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Inner Mongolia Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Kwangsi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese Combat - British Battle in Kweichow British attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow British win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Burma 1 infantry moved from Central India to Western India 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Gibraltar 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 3 transports moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.00 Americans regular : -0.17 Japanese regular : -0.67 Germans regular : 0.33 British regular : -0.50
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