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Question Regarding Normandy/Bordeaux

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@shadowhawk if the United States invests heavily in the Atlantic, they will eventually capture Normandy in a typical match. There is little that Germany can do to prevent it without sacrificing the more important objective of capturing Moscow or the Middle East to achieve the massive income swing.

Germany can either try to slow down the invasion by making it more expensive to have an adequately naval force and expeditionary landing force that can survive a Normandy landing, or merely prevent the initial beachhead to turn into an expanded mission to liberate all of France and threaten the German homeland.

Capturing Normandy and making it into an Axis territory does make it significantly harder to have as a beachhead since American planes can’t reinforce the ground forces in the first turn of capture. That is a big swing and a key weakness of the strategy to leave it in France’s ownership.

Leaving it in French control means the United States needs 3 more transports and a loaded aircraft carrier to provide equivalent benefit as a factory and an air base. That is an extra turn of Atlantic-side spending and we find the games in such tight balance that this could tip the balance of power in high-level matches with battle calculators to exploit any slight odds advantages.

Pros and cons of Germany taking Normandy. It is not a clear and simple decision. I expect the meta to continue to slowly evolve in OOB League matches, although sadly there are not enough high-level games in this setting to get the strategies to advance as quickly as before.
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W@W captain walker (axis) vs dawgoneit

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L24 PtV Gorshak (Axis+9) vs ArtofWar1947 (Allies) #1

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Redid the UK CM and finally got it right. Here’s the corrected map.

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Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 2 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 marines, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 49 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 49 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Gilbert Islands 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Morocco to Algeria Americans take Algeria from Italians Combat - Americans Americans creates battle in territory 7 Sea Zone Battle in Guam Battle in Gilbert Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 2 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans win, taking 7 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking Guam from Japanese, taking Gilbert Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 5 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Gilbert Islands to 49 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gilbert Islands to 49 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Suriname to 90 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - Americans 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 33 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 49 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung Chinese take Shantung from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Chinese take Jehol from Japanese 2 infantry moved from Honan to Shansi 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kiangsi 12 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 6 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 12 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kiangsi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese win, taking Kiangsi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 18 PUs; end with 20 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 fighters moved from French Central Africa to Egypt 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Central India to Eastern India 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Persia to Eastern India 1 fighter moved from French Central Africa to Egypt 1 artillery moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt Combat - British Battle in Eastern India British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry British win, taking Eastern India from Japanese, taking Gilbert Islands from Americans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Battle in Egypt British attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry British win, taking Egypt from Italians with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Southern Persia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Central India 1 infantry moved from Northeast Persia to Southern Persia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 armour moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 2 fighters moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar Place Units - British 1 transport placed in 73 Sea Zone 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Persia Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 83 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 81 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,1,1,2,4 British collect 30 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 30 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,2,6,6,3,6,1,2,6,1,4,4 UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 6 PUs
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World at War game 18

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NML 1914 game 13

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@Elrood I run 3 versions.
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#4 (new): dawgoneit (Axis) - VictoryFirst (Allies) | Anniversary 1942, no bid

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@VictoryFirst a3e2ccec-556e-4688-aa1e-416bd7b4dd83-Germany 1.tsvg

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Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 13 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Bulgaria Romania to 15 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to 12 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 12 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R. 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Northwestern Europe to 5 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R. 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine 1 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to Bulgaria Romania 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia Hungary to Bulgaria Romania 2 armour moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania Combat - Germans Battle in 1 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 1 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 1 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 1 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 1 Sea Zone British win with 1 cruiser and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Karelia S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 armour and 6 infantry Russians defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia S.S.R. Germans win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 15 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in 15 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 15 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 15 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 12 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 12 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 12 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 12 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 12 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 12 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 12 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 12 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 12 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to France 1 bomber moved from 12 Sea Zone to Balkans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 13 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 13 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 16 Sea Zone to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Germany to France 1 armour moved from France to Poland 1 infantry moved from Germany to France 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 fighter moved from 15 Sea Zone to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Norway to France Place Units - Germans 1 bomber placed in Germany 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective 1: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective 3: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs Objective 2: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : -1.17
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barnee vs Panzerstahl-Helm Game 4

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@Panzerstahl-Helm said in barnee vs Panzerstahl-Helm Game 4:

strange. I had to re-do my turn in edit mode. Fortunately it was only the Russian turn…

hmm … not sure what happened there. Hopefully it doesn’t mess with us again :)

yea it’d really be brutal if the first time you crossed they were invisible lol
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PTV ArtofWar (Ax+12) v AxisDominion (Al)

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Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi Japanese take Shansi from Chinese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Shantung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to Shantung 2 bombers moved from Iwo Jima to Shantung 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Britain Combat - Japanese Japanese creates battle in territory 20 Sea Zone Battle in New Britain Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in New Britain, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in New Britain, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in New Britain Japanese win, taking 20 Sea Zone from ANZAC, taking New Britain from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Shantung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shantung, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Japanese win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Shan State, round 2 : 6/17 hits, 5.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in French Indo China Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in French Indo China, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China Japanese win, taking French Indo China from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shantung to Japan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 21 Sea Zone to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Japan 1 aaGun moved from Kyushu to Japan 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Fukien 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Fukien 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from New Britain to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 infantry, 3 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 3 fighters moved from Queensland to Davao 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 7 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in New South Wales 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Malaya 4 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.00 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.00 UK_Pacific regular : 0.33