@ncscswitch:
The reality is that all of the units are IN that sea zone, and in no version of A&A are you EVER allowed to target a single nation’s forces when there is more than one nation’s forces in that area. And Germany (using the previous example) IS targetting just the US ships and ignoring the UK ships that are in the same zone when he fires.
Once again, you have changed the rules to fit your argument. Let me 'splain. The submerging submarine that resurfaces is what causes this argument, so if any game in question does not have a submerging submarine rule, please to not draw parallels to it. The combat does not “ignore” ships that may be in the sea zone. The other Allied ships have already participated in their attack phase and can no longer participate with any attacking force until their next turn. Nothing is being ignored, if anything, your interpretation allows a single navy to participate in potentially 3 attacks a turn.
@ncscswitch:
Extrapolating…
USA trannies an AA gun from the US to somewhere in central Europe (perhaps Eastern)
Germany flies over Eastern to get to Belorussia to attack.
The US is NOT a participant in the attack in any way, shape, or form.
Does the AA gun fire? It is not being attacked, and the battle is between the Russian forces in Belorussia and the German AF. By your reasoning, it would not, since the United States is not being attacked, and it is not their turn.But that is NOT how it works. Even though the US is not being attacked, their gun gets to fire… because it is THERE.
No. If you haven’t noticed, the AA gun is a grey colored piece (much like the Industrial Complex). It also has special rules to follow these special pieces that are clearly outlined in the rules. From Printed Ruleset (and LHTR) “Whenever an air unit enters a territory containing an enemy anti-aircraft gun, the anti-aircraft gun fires during the opening fire step of combat.”
No parallel can be drawn between standard combat and AA guns for there is a special provision to account for this happening that seems to be crystal clear.
@ncscswitch:
And that is the point of the UK ships in the above example… they ARE there.
They are on the board, but they are not involved in combat.
@ncscswitch:
We’ll let the Game Designers determine what clarifications to make to the rules (because one way or another, this potentially FREQUENT situation needs to be dealt with (it happened 2 times in the game I am currently playing)
The Game Designers did clarify the situation for the rule does not exist (even in ambiguity) in the rule book.
It seems you have already drawn a conclusion and are now searching for facts to back up your statements. The game should not be played this way.