I played against this one guy once who, after 3 rounds and significant inroads into Africa, pulled everything back into just the capital. He had 40 inf in Germany with 4 fighters, plus building inf every round. I tried to build up forces to attack this, but I just bounced off. I made the mistake of taking SEU with Russia instead of USA, so I couldn’t build American units in Italy. Anyway, it took me so long to build up enough forces to attack this stack again, that Japan had an economic victory by then. Pulling back is sometimes advantageous.
Posts made by madscientist
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RE: Fortress Europe
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RE: German attack on Karelia
@ncscswitch:
You are wrong on your Russian totals (probably by assuming that Russia attacks Eastern or Ukraine)
Russia can have… UP TO 36 INF IN KARELIA for G3! Plus 3-4 armor, plus 2 figs. Plus allied forces. Remember, US CAN have INF on the ground in Karelia by US2 if they choose.
You are also playing Japan in a manner that makes them VERY vulnerable. By taking India and China, you leave an open slice from Sinkiang to Burma to Kwangtung. Against the Yakut Stack (which could be augmented by Russian AF), you have only at most 5 figs, a bomber, and 4 INF (assuming all other land forces used for the China and India strikes). And I am going to be honest… you leave Japan’s fleet THAT exposed, I am coming after it as the US in US1, sinking your fleet, and making Japan have to delay their main push in Asia ANOTHER round befor ethey get tranny back-up for their 3 unit Manchuria factory. While my sub, carrier and fig (perhaps a second fig also) sink your Japan fleet, my BB and Tranny start the southern island hopping I posted about elsewhere, quickly reaching your soft under-belly: Burma.
Fine Point: In your Africa Strategy as posted, you failed to blitz French Equatorial for an extra IPC (and more importantly removing 1 IPC from UK)
Also, you are putting too much faith in Germany’s Air Force. You WILL lose a number of aircraft to the UK fleet on G1, probably 2-3. So you have HALF of the initial AF to support your Karelia attack.
Let’s look at the revised numbers in Karelia:
Russia: 36 +/- INF, 3 tanks (leave 1 in Yakut), 2 figs. Total 41 pieces with a defensive point value of 86
Above includes NO allied forces, not even UK figs.
Germany: Now this is the ABSOLUTE maximum you can have. It assumes NO forces lost prior to your attack on G3
INF: 27 INF; 15 tanks; 5 figs; 1 bmb. That is it, that is your builds plus ALL starting units that could reach (exception of the 1 tank you specified went to Libya).
Total 48 pieces with an attack value of 91.Even assuming a BEST POSSIBLE scenario for Germany, this is a CLOSE fight. In reality, with half your AF laying at the bottom of the UK sea zone, loses from your assault on Ukraine, etc. this is a fight that decimates Germany in the move immediately preceeding UK being able to land forces with the navy they re-built in UK2, and that the US has a full tranny fleet ready to unload as well.
Even if you win, Germany loses so much territory, and will have lost so many forces, that they will never recover. And they won;t have anywhere near enough forces to press their hard-won advantage (IF they win) against Russia’s build of 8 INF in R4.
I realize I may be off with the Russian totals a little, but let’s figure this out:
Turn 1: build 8 inf, move 4 inf from each of Caucasus and Russia, start with 3 inf, that’s 19 inf (with 1 inf on Cau).
Turn 2: build 8 inf, total 27 inf.
Turn 3: build 8 inf, total 35 inf.
Oops you were rightAnyway, in regard to leaving the Japanese trns vulnerable, I should have put this in, but I was assuming that Pearl was hit with everything that was not in the mainland attacks i.e. the 2 battleships, the sub, and the ftr from the AC in the Carolinas (which would later land on the AC in the Japanese SZ to protect the trns).
Come on, blitzing FEA is a no-brainer. I figured that went without saying. In this strat, I should clarify that the German forces in Africa are taking as much territory as possible.
Even if Burma was taken by the US inf in Sinkang, the remaining Japanese ground forces in India and China can take them out.
Also, since the game is RR, Germany will have its whole navy at the start, which, if well played, can take out the British navy and PROBABLY only lose subs and the Baltic trn.
But do you see that this strat would be a good way to whittle down the Russians and make Japan’s job easier?
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German attack on Karelia
OK so here’s a strategy for the Axis:
Bid 12, put 2 inf on Libya and 2 inf on Burma (RR).
G1: Buy 10 inf, take out British fleet and take Egypt and FWA and move all inf within range (except 1 inf in Ukraine) to EEU. Move arm in Ukraine to EEU. Have 4 tanks, 2 inf and 4-5 fighters in WEU (as deterrent). transport 1 tank to Libya.
J1: Depending on whether Russia stacked Yakut, build a factory on Manchuria and 1 trn. Take China, SFE and India. Transport the 2 inf from the Phillipines to Manchuria, and land all fighters in Manchuria for defense of factory.
G2: Build 7 tanks, take back Ukraine with forces (except say 2 inf) in EEU, move 10 inf from Germany to EEU. Vacate WEU except 2 inf (moving 4 arm to Ger). Now Russia can either take back Ukraine or try to take EEU. Either way it will be costly in units.
J2: Build 2 inf, 1 AA, 2-3 tanks. Take Yakut if you can, take other territories in Asia where possible. Transport 2 inf (1 from Japan and 1 from Okinawa) to Man, tran also 1 tank and 1 AA to Man. Place 2 inf and 1 tank in Man. Place built tanks in Japan.
G3: Attack Karelia, using all units in range, including aircraft. Russia can have at most 24 inf in Kar, plus 2 ftrs and allied ftrs. The odds are that all units will be wasted except the aircraft, which Germany can retreat to the capital. Now Russia has almost nothing left to fend off Japan, who will be knocking on the doorstep with many units.
J3: Build 3 tanks on Man + say 6 inf to attack wherever (perhaps Alaska) with, trn other tanks to manchuria from Japan, march toward Russia.
G4: try to take back WEU and other territories, build all inf.
J4: Build 2-3 bombers, take more territory.
J5: take Russia with all available units. -
RE: Stupid newb question
You do not need to involve battleships in an amphibious assault. However, you need to designate which ships are involved in the amphibious assault and which are involved the sea battle if there are enemy sea units in the sea zone that you are unloading the transports in (pg 15 of the 2nd ed. manual, under “Amphibious Assaults”).
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RE: Bidding levels for Power Africa
@ncscswitch:
Relocating the Norway tank to Africa has never been a move I had much reason to consider. Whenever I play Germany, my opponent ALWAYS takes out that fleet using Russia sub and aircraft or sub and tranny cannon fodder.
Ya, I also play with Russia unrestricted, and my opponents do the same thing. Our bids are usually in the 20’s though, which is enough to place an extra sub off the coast of France for taking out the British navy. I usually don’t have the option of transporting anyone from Norway to Algeria.
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RE: Bidding levels for Power Africa
Same here, all units to Libya. Really, there are only 2 German territories in Africa. I suppose if you dropped a couple of inf in Algeria, it would make a US landing there on US1 more difficult. If you put all 4 inf in Algeria, the allies would have more trouble making their first landing and it would give Germany more time to take East Africa.
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RE: The 5 Territory J1 Seizure
@221B:
A Power Asia bid…Interesting. I’ve never tried this or heard much about this concept, does anyone have any experience with this?
That seems like it would be fun to try… Bid 3-4 inf in Burma or 7-8 inf in Burma if no RR. At least it would have the allies panic a little.
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RE: US Island Hopping
Sure, that’s all good, but it would be taking US IPC’s away from the European theatre. I can see using the US Pacific fleet to cause trouble on the Pacific Islands if Pearl was not attacked, but I wouldn’t spend any extra IPC’s on the Pacific end until say shuck-shuck is going with 10 troops per round and there is money left over for the Pacific.
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RE: The 5 Territory J1 Seizure
Ahh yes very good. I like the idea of hitting Sinkang instead. That way, if the UK India trn has not been moved, it doesn’t matter. Also, to have Russia’s capital threatened by Japan by round 3 is also noteworthy.
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RE: The 5 Territory J1 Seizure
The way I usually play Japan, I go for most of those territories, but leave enough navy to attack Pearl. This is what I do:
Build 3 inf, 2 trn
SFE attacked by 2 inf and trn and ftr from Japan.
Yakut ignored
China attacked by 2 inf from MAN and 2 inf from Kwangtung with fighters from MAN and Burma
India attacked by 2 inf and trn from Phillipines and 2 inf from Burma and bomber from Japan (however this leaves trn vulnerable).
Then, attack Pearl with sub from Soloman Is. and BB and ftr from Caroline Is. and BB from Japan
lose all but ftr from Pearl (if possible), land ftr on AC in Japan SZ to protect trns there.See, if you do this, you have made huge inroads into Asia AND taken out the US fleet in Hawaii, and you might just have a BB left to distract the US some more.
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RE: Openning Germany Move
@ncscswitch:
Have you ever played Soon_U_Die or the other experienced players at this site in an internet game?
I have never played an internet game of A&A.
I have never played an internet game at this site either, but if you want to, just go to “Games” and post that you are looking for a game.
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RE: Openning Germany Move
Have you ever played Soon_U_Die or the other experienced players at this site in an internet game?
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RE: Openning Germany Move
Thanks for that- you play without bids? Do you play Russia Restricted? If you don’t play RR, how often do you win as the Axis?
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RE: PBEM - Hints, tips, and tools
What do you open the maps with? They are just a bunch of 0’s for me
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RE: Openning Germany Move
What do you guys do about a Power Africa bid? You know, if the German player bids 21 (no RR) and places 7 inf on Libya?
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RE: Openning Germany Move
I played against an opponent who did almost the same thing. I did practically everything you did, except that I didn’t attack Egypt with the BB and trn and 2 inf, instead I just used the bomber and the inf and tank from Libya, and landed the bomber in Libya. I transported a tank to Libya in non-combat. I sent all inf in range to Eastern Europe (except 1 inf in Ukraine), and took out the UK Egypt sub with the ftr from Ukraine. I went after the Med BB with my BB and the ftr from WEU, leaving two ftrs and 1 sub for taking out the BB and trn in British waters. I landed 3 ftrs in WEU, and moved 1 tank there from Germany as well, so as to deter an attack.
This worked well for me for a while, but I usually didn’t have that many ftrs left. Then we started using bids and I could use the bomber for taking out navy.