Hello,

I have the 2004 edition and would love to play some other versions. I have a few people locally but always excited to expand! Let me know if you’d care to Join us.

2 Turn Rounds:
I am wondering if anyone has tried something like this.
Last game we had took 4 hours, so i am trying to let some slower players do stuff at the same time.

In any game with 5 powers,
(turn order USSR, GER, UK, Japan, USA)
it is possible for a round to be finished in 2 turns instead of 5 by letting each team move together.

Start the game as normal, for the first few rounds, when the UK player is ready, change the turn order so the UK goes after Japan.
(if your group thinks the UK needs some compensation feel free to give them 5 IPCs or if the UK has a 2nd factory place 1 infantry there before changing turn order)

Before the Japanese goes. (or whatever player gets to skip) the skipped player (UK) should get to do a non combat move for every unit closer to Japanese (territory or units) than to any axis powers. (Germany)

After the swap, The Allies can do most of their turns at the same time and so can the Axis.
Different powers still may not attack together.
If their are turns where one attack depends on a previous attack let the different powers do combat moves & resolve combat separately (but in order!)

You can have different combat rounds for the allied powers.

Allies:
COMBAT 1: (move and resolve) USA > Japan | UK > Ger
COMBAT 2: (move and resolve) RUS > Japan | USA > Ger
COMBAT 3: (move and resolve) UK > Japan | RUS > Ger

Axis:
COMBAT 1: (move and resolve) Japan > UK | GER > USA & USSR
COMBAT 2: (move and resolve) GER > UK | Japan > USA & USSR

Although if friendly powers are not fighting in the same territories you can ignore the separate combat steps and just make all your moves. (often applicable for the Axis)

Combat move and resolve are the only steps that get messy.
All the other turn phases can be done simultaneously, and this speeds up the game.

This also solves the problem of the USA not getting to collect from territories in China that go back and forth being fought over by Russia and Japan. A small thing that has bugged me an unreasonable amount!

Anyone out there? I have the 1942 but open to trying other games

Grinchveld
Waterloo
Ontario Canada
HAS: D-Day and the 2004 global

@panther

If i click on the report button it says
“A report already exists on this issue”
and goes to this link
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/9777

the game is 1940 Europe Original

Thanks for the quick response!

I tried a game against myself, just to learn the flow before playing against someone else.
(I used the same email address for both sides)
Started ok, but when i finished my 1st turn’s combat rolls it got stuck.
It did not progress to the non combat move.

A window popped up saying
unknown property named ‘turns’
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: unknown property named ‘turns’

Help

Do people use Vassal? how does it compare to triple A?

I would be looking at asynchronous play for either.

Any advice would be great! thanks

@grinchveld

the ‘Suggested Topics’ does look like others have come up with similar ideas.

like this from 2015
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/26036/simultaneous-play-in-opposite-theaters/11

I have not played the versions with more than 5 powers, but I do think the basic idea can work to reduce the number of turns in a round. by changing the turn order.

Implement after the 1st round or 2, to keep positioning balanced.
Depending on the balance, some small advantage for the power who gets skipped.

Then powers on the same side who have consecutive turns may all go together as long as you break the combat moves along the original order (from the perspective of the attacked)

Breaking the combat into multiple rounds does seem to be the organizationally new thing.
(or at least I haven’t found someone say it that way on this site yet)

2 Turn Rounds:
I am wondering if anyone has tried something like this.
Last game we had took 4 hours, so i am trying to let some slower players do stuff at the same time.

In any game with 5 powers,
(turn order USSR, GER, UK, Japan, USA)
it is possible for a round to be finished in 2 turns instead of 5 by letting each team move together.

Start the game as normal, for the first few rounds, when the UK player is ready, change the turn order so the UK goes after Japan.
(if your group thinks the UK needs some compensation feel free to give them 5 IPCs or if the UK has a 2nd factory place 1 infantry there before changing turn order)

Before the Japanese goes. (or whatever player gets to skip) the skipped player (UK) should get to do a non combat move for every unit closer to Japanese (territory or units) than to any axis powers. (Germany)

After the swap, The Allies can do most of their turns at the same time and so can the Axis.
Different powers still may not attack together.
If their are turns where one attack depends on a previous attack let the different powers do combat moves & resolve combat separately (but in order!)

You can have different combat rounds for the allied powers.

Allies:
COMBAT 1: (move and resolve) USA > Japan | UK > Ger
COMBAT 2: (move and resolve) RUS > Japan | USA > Ger
COMBAT 3: (move and resolve) UK > Japan | RUS > Ger

Axis:
COMBAT 1: (move and resolve) Japan > UK | GER > USA & USSR
COMBAT 2: (move and resolve) GER > UK | Japan > USA & USSR

Although if friendly powers are not fighting in the same territories you can ignore the separate combat steps and just make all your moves. (often applicable for the Axis)

Combat move and resolve are the only steps that get messy.
All the other turn phases can be done simultaneously, and this speeds up the game.

This also solves the problem of the USA not getting to collect from territories in China that go back and forth being fought over by Russia and Japan. A small thing that has bugged me an unreasonable amount!

Grinchveld
Waterloo
Ontario Canada
HAS: D-Day and the 2004 global

@ everyone

After thinking about this on and off for months I have come up with an idea that introduces zero new components!

No changing costs or stats. Instead change the casualties.

When picking casualties, you cannot pick the same unit type 3 times in a row. So instead of killing 3 inf you would kill 2 and the 3rd would have to be something else. And if no other units are left then u kill 2 inf on the 3rd hit every 3rd hit

@Imperious-Leader is that 10% lost figure specifically for flack? (I thought that the majority of bombers the allies lost were to fighters) Or just the allies overall stat. If we want to be to realistic we nd to factor in altitude, and weather and day vs night bombing. Which could be really cool! Pick different types of sbr and roll for weather to. But i was trying to leave the rest of the game untouched to make it playable.

@Sturmhard-Eisenkeil
Would the AnA still roll 3 dice? Would the bomber be less effective if it gets hit?
the damage means you don’t need to sit on 5 or 10 ipcs all the time.

@GEN-MANSTEIN tbh the 3 dice and math way feels simpler to me, but others might be more comfortable with the chart.