I recently read a book on the Battles of Khalkhin Gol. This fact left me in deep thought about this question: before the battle of Khalkhin Gol, the IJA brought as much artillery rounds they could find in China and Korea, the IJA had 100,000 rounds for the operation. Meanwhile the Soviet Army had 100,000 rounds each day of the fight.
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RE: What if japan invaded the Soviet Union (alternative history scenario)?
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RE: What if japan invaded the Soviet Union (alternative history scenario)?
I’ve been good, Barnee.
@barnee said in What if japan invaded the Soviet Union (alternative history scenario)?:
@abworsham4 it also would leave the USA Pacific Fleet intact as well as the British in Singapore. The Philippines woulda been a potential nightmare for them.
While I think the japanese navy would have handled itself fine in a defensive roll, especially early in the war, leaving those strong forces intact for the Allies would still be problematic for them.
I would think FDR would manufacture some reason to enter the war at that point regardless of public opinion.
Hard to say. Does Hitler then not DOW on USA ? Makes for an even harder sale for FDR then.
Either way, after adolf attacked Russia, it was game over. Just a matter of time was all. Imo anyway
How you been AB ?
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RE: What if japan invaded the Soviet Union (alternative history scenario)?
@superbattleshipyamato We see during the Siege of Odessa in 1941 that the Romanians suffer heavily attacking head on Russia earthwork defenses.
The Japanese were very charismatic in charges that either resulted victories or mass casualties. The Russian infantry strength in 1941 was his ability to hold a fixed position. This he did well, as German infantry casualties tell.
The Japanese didn’t have the German’s artistic ability of infantry, armor and air working together. This force crumbled the Red Army in the summer of 41. Japan would be fighting into the Red Army’s strength.
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RE: What if japan invaded the Soviet Union (alternative history scenario)?
@barnee With the terrain being remote I see a Far East War between USSR and Japan turning very stationary, after the first few months. Much like the frontlines north of Leningrad and South of Murmansk.
The Russians focusing on the advancements of the Germans and Japan having a war in China to conduct, would have put an strain on both countries.
I could see strong Chinese counterattacks against depleted Japanese positions.
I could also see a Russia Expeditionary Force entering China.
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RE: Could Japan have blockaded Australia?
@superbattleshipyamato The IJN didn’t consider the fleet as a defensive weapon. While your view does make great sense. It’s uncharacteristic of the Japanese. Attack, attack, attack.
A blockade of Australia would require some cooperation with the IJA, which the IJN has no history of doing.
Look at the American Civil War, the Anaconda Plan require hundreds of ships and a great many outpost manned by the Union Army to keep a coastline as long as the Confederate States under patrol. The Australian coastline is massive and would probably need a eastern and western port under Japanese control to keep the blockade tight and ongoing. This would require Japanese army divisions and the better parts of those units are fighting a prolonged war in China.
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RE: German Battleship Jean Bart
@tall-paul By the way folks, Paul is a first class A&A player. Very dangerous with an IJN or US fleet.
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RE: Missouri vs Gustav
@superbattleshipyamato The scenario would have to be somewhat like the Siege of Port Arthur in 1905, where the Japanese had the Russian fleet bottled up. The Japanese lobbed large siege artillery shell at the Imperial Russian Fleet until most units were knocked out.
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RE: Missouri vs Gustav
@witt My thoughts are a tall boy bomb of 12,000 lbs sunk the Tirpitz. How would a direct hit from a 31.5” 10000 pound shell effect the Missouri?
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RE: Missouri vs Gustav
@superbattleshipyamato That’s a 31.5 inch shell.
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RE: Visiting Battlefields
I went last weekend to Vicksburg Mississippi. Had a great trip. ![alt text]
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RE: What are you reading
@abworsham4 I’m currently reading Shelby Foote’s The Civil War, A Narrative, Volume three .
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RE: 2013 WWII Battleship Match Up
@superbattleshipyamato glad that discussion found more life
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RE: German Battleship Jean Bart
@superbattleshipyamato Would Vichy French forces move on the British colonies of the Gold Coast, Nigeria and the importance port of Freetown?
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RE: German Battleship Jean Bart
@superbattleshipyamato I love old topics getting brought back to life.
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RE: WW1 history book
@eisenhower John Keegan’s The First World War is a good read. I enjoyed Storm of Steel.
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RE: How many players from the 80s and 90s have we here?
@thrasher1 If I remember correctly the 2nd Edition Axis and Allies cost me around 60.00-70.00 dollars. At age 16 that was a lot of Christmas cash.
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RE: What if the Axis had unlimited oil?
@superbattleshipyamato123
I going to say no. The war is longer because of the added material resources.
Germany would need to increase its productivity in weapons to match the Soviet Union.
The US would need to up its 90 Division gamble to win a war with a Germany and Japan with oil.
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RE: What if a truce ended the war on the Eastern Front in 1942 or 1943?
@superbattleshipyamato123
A second drive on Moscow would face the bulk of the Soviet forces.
The drive south to be successful needed to bag large pockets of Soviet troops. Soviet forces had the ability to withdrawal faster than the Germans could advance.
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RE: How many players from the 80s and 90s have we here?
@thrasher1 I saved my Christmas money in 1995 and bought Axis and Allies.