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Yanny

I think the main connection between the two books is complete domination of power. There is no real competition between nations, no power struggle, in either book. Sure, there was an endless world war going on in 1984, but no nation was strong enough to defeat another. Nations were free to do what they wanted.

In Brave New World, I don’t remember any competition, no other nations. But I read that a few years ago.

My point is, the books show us why we do not want one nation to rule the world.

Oh, and both nations show how Education can be a weapon. People were segregated and educated by blood type in Brave New World. The common people, the Proles, were not nearly as regulated as the party members. Instead, they were left, blinded by ignorance.

Were the Proles to revolt, the Governments could not last.

@Yanny:

I think the main connection between the two books is complete domination of power.
There is no real competition between nations, no power struggle, in either book. Sure, there was an endless world war going on in 1984, but no nation was strong enough to defeat another. Nations were free to do what they wanted.

@yourbuttocks:

I think that breaking up the family is critical to controling the population in both books. Family gives people loyalties other than to the state, encourages independent think…

I see your points and must admit, i didn’t think that much about them.
I still think that the internation relations are not that important in the books, not at all mentioned in BNW… they play a role as a tool of suppression in 1984 though.
The role of the families is interesting, especially in BNW. You can see that there is one family… and it would be interesting to analyze it… have to read the book again soon i guess.

@Yanny:

In Brave New World, I don’t remember any competition, no other nations.

There is this “outside”, the barbarians…. but that is all.

Oh, and both nations show how Education can be a weapon. People were segregated and educated by blood type in Brave New World. The common people, the Proles, were not nearly as regulated as the party members. Instead, they were left, blinded by ignorance.

Were the Proles to revolt, the Governments could not last.

Yup, Education is one of the major points. If you control the kids, you control the future.
For “if the Proles revolted”…. well, that was covered in the book to a large degree, why it would not happen.
Have to read 1984 as well soon again :)

goldmoon

I think they should read world war 2 b/c all the punk teenagers dont know anything about the war . :evil: @Yanny:

If you had to make up a list of books that you thought that High Schools students should all read, what would they be?

For me, in no real order:

The Hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien
The Lost World - Michael Crichton
Prey - Michael Crichton (new book, really a great read)
1984 - Geoge Orwell
When True Night Falls - C.S. Friedman

The Lost World is, in my opinion, one of the best books ever written. They ruined the movie. Definately Crichton’s best book. But his new book, Prey, comes pretty damn close to The Lost World. I read it for hours straight, I just couldn’t put it down.

When True Night Falls is a newer fantasy book thats less famous than the others. Its really a great piece of writing, and there are 2 sequels.

The Hobbit is easily Tolkien’s best book, its beautifully written, incredibly detailed, and spawned a legion of fans and 3 great follow up books.

1984, one of my personal favorites.

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