Convoys

Thanks

@calvinhobbesliker:

Yes

though technically I believe a submarine can only be “submerged” during the combat phase and after the combat phase ends it is no longer considered “submerged”. So during any collect income phase, submarines cannot be submerged for any reason regardless at that point in a turn.

I believe Kreig has previously expressed the problems with the rule as submarines are often “submerged” regardless and it’s a misnomer.

Say the Japs had DEI & Phil, and its main force is at Carol Is. Ideally if you could get 5 allied subs in range you could spread them out in 5 different sz all at once costing Jap $ (8-10 ipc) and forcing them to buy more DD’s to go after you. At the very least it could be a stall tactic or weaken the Jap force. Jap would need to make a choice to attack your main force w/o DD’s (cheap causalities), or leave the convoy raids in place. If Jap goes after the subs, you may have created targets of opportunity to go after.

If you destroy 12 IPCs as Japan the US is down to 38 or so. If Japan keeps up with the US Navy builds it seems like that would keep the Japanese on a pretty even playing field with the US.

Since they happen on two different turns, they can do both.

In order to collect full income from a territory/island adjacent to a convoy zone the zone must be free of enemy subs/surface warships, correct ?

sz19 is adjacent to 4 income producing territories with a total IPC value of 9. Does that mean , with the requiste number of units, one could deny the owner of the terriories 9 IPCs?

If a sz borders 2 territories one axis the other allied, and the sz contains ships/subs for both, both countries income must be adjusted ?

Moving warships, subs into a neutral convoy zone constitutes an act of war?

An act of war by Japan against any neutral (except Mongolia) results in a state of war with all allies while an ANZAC/UK attack on Japan maintains US neutrality. Should the US violate neutrality what is the Commonwealth status ?

US neutrality ends after J3. This means the US can attack on US3 ?

I haven’t had a chance to play yet but I’m thinking this may elevate subs to the strategic asset they should be.  :-D

I think the best way to deal with convoys is to have a zone like in AAP and AAE. It is a convoy route for a selected country. If it becomes occupied by an enemy then that country loses income for every turn thereafter until that evemy ship leaves the zone or it is destroyed. If the enemy ship leaves then the route opens again, it should not stay closed if the enemy then leaves! You should not have to have a friendly warship there to keep it open, only to defend it. To sum up what I said: if the zone has nothing there then the convoy is open and adding to the income of the country, if it is closed by and enemy ship then it won’t add to the income of the country any more.

So from my understanding if a convoy route is captured why are we losing money already collected? How does that make sense, the ships delivering IPCs already got to us, thus the collect income phase at the end of the turn. For every turn after then the income should be docked, but why immediately?