Transporter rule clarification

@the_good_captain said in Rules Question/Clarification:

My reading of pages 20 + 26 is that if a country’s capital is in enemy hands, and a friendly power controls another factory owned by this country, the friendly power can use the factory and collect IPCs.

Yes.

I was really hoping that if Italy fell to Russia and Russia fell to Japan, that America or Britain could later use the Italian factory. "

No. You cannot capture a territory from a friendly power, whether or not that power has fallen.

If the USSR controls Italy when Moscow falls, it retains control (and cannot use the IC) until Italy is recaptured by the Axis, after which another Allied power could capture it from the Axis (and use the IC). The same applies to Karelia.

We also have a different House rule that has proven to be very interesting:

We use the Chinese Setup from 1942 but instead of Suiyuan having 2 Inf, we add an additional Inf in Yunnan (thous having 3 Inf 1 Fig)…

The Japanese player can still opt to got for it with 3 Inf 2 Fig, but it is an evenly and very costly battle.

Having more boots in China also makes the abundance of Japanese transports in 1941 less of a problem since the Japanese player has to send a bit more Infantry to China to counter them.

We found this setup to be way more interesting and also historically accurate because China was a pain in the ass for Japan and it shouldn’t be that easy for Japan to defeat them.

The rules as you state them are correct.  The only way you wouldn’t be able to load and then unload a transport on the same turn is when you load your units on to one of your allies transports then you must wait until the next turn to unload them.  I think if transports worked the way you wanted them to industrial complexes would become very popular in this game.

Thanks for all your imput guys…  totally makes sense.

Yox

Have anyone played 1941-double blind (one vs one with a third person as a referee - only your own units and units in adjacent territories are visible. Referee will set up newly seen units when they come in range)?

If this has been tried already, then which rules have you used? We will let normal planes do recon missions instead of their attacks and if they pass fighters or aa-guns they risk being killed.

Ideally the fog of war should give the allies a small advantage to even out the normal bid.

Is there any great ideas out there?

Ghostglider

@cocotheflyingnut:

#1: Can Russia produce out of Germany? Or because their capital is gone, they no longer can produce anywhere?

You can’t purchase units if you don’t hold your capital.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#2:If Russia is taken over first, and then Russia takes out Germany, what happens to the money Russia would take from Germany? Does it go to the bank?

The USSR still gets the IPCs, but it can’t spend them until its capital is liberated.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#3: Does Caucasus become Japans? Does Japan have to put units in Caucasus for it to become theirs, or will it always be Germany’s unless Russia takes it back, and Japan takes it from them?

It will remain under German control until captured by an Allied power.  Japan can’t take it from Germany.

@cocotheflyingnut:

#4: If Russia was taken over from Germany, but Russia takes Germany, and you have Japanese units also in Russia, who has ownership of Russia, and who, if anyone, is allowed to produce there?

Germany controls Russia until it is liberated by an Allied power.  Germany can’t mobilize units there, since its capital is in enemy hands.  Japan can’t mobilize units there, since it doesn’t control the territory.  So, no one is allowed to use the IC until the situation changes (either Russia or Germany is liberated).

No, it takes a tanks its entire movement to load and unload from a transport.