Dice rolls

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We use a mix of dice colors (white, red, black, dark blue, light blue, green, purple, orange, and grey).  Each one designated for its hit value, special attack, or unit differentiation (subs, super subs, shore bombardment, SBR, etc).  That way we can roll the entire attack or defense at once.  It gets interesting when rolling 15+ dice all at the same time.

That sounds pretty cool I’ll have to try that.

I think someone said something about rolling each set twice.  Anyway, here is another idea.

Any time there are more than X dice being rolled (you decide X for yourself, but I would say at least 4 dice [you can’t average 1 roll, and it would get absurd if you roll twice for 2 dice, perhaps absurd for 3]), then the person rolling them rolls them two times, then takes the Average number of hits between the two rolls.  In case of decimal, round in the direction of the first roll.
For example, I am attacking with 3 inf and 3 tanks against you with 3 inf.  I would roll twice, lets say the first roll I get 2 hits, and the second roll I get 5 hits.  The average of this would be 7/2= 3.5 hits.  Because the first roll was lower, you round down, so that is 3 hits now.  You would not get to roll twice because you are only rolling 3 dice. 
Or another example, I attack with 3 inf 2 art, against you with 3 inf.  I roll twice and get 2 hits the first time, and 1 hit the second time.  The average is 1.5, but you round up because the first roll was higher.  You again would not roll twice because you have less than X=4 dice to roll.  You get lucky and roll 3 hits.  Now it is 2 art against 1 inf.  Neither of us would roll twice because we are now both less than 4.

Or another way to do this, would be to use a certain number of “roll twice for an average” chips / tokens.  Lets say you get 5 total for each team, and are allowed to purchase more for 4 ipcs each.  You may use one of them up to do exactly what I just described above.

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It’s even better than low luck  :-D

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Ok to refute the argument on LL is less complex, um, there about the same.

With dice you do what you do praying the dice don’t take a dump on you, sending in more units than needed is still wasteful because the dice could just take a larger dump on you.  With LL I have to be more aware of strafes, as well as cascading dice failure is a huge issue in LL, something i regularly expose my opponents too.  In LL I have true risk management when i send either a DD and a fig at that sub, or a DD and a bomber.  Or 2 inf and a fig to trade, or 2 inf and a bomber against that 1 inf.  2 inf + 1 bomb vs 2 inf in LL can turn into me loosing both inf, I still have your ‘risk management’ to deal with.

With dice I just hope for the best, I have no true control over what the dice will do.  In LL i have to choose to send the extra units to ensure the result, or not to.  I cannot begin to tell you the number of battles that come down to that AA gun hitting, but they do exist.  Or the time when my DD+fig missed that sub and it hit, then sunk a tranny next turn.

They are different styles, and neither is the ‘correct’ one, how about we all stop arguing over it.  Its like watching a political debate.

DAAK has a pretty good LL system for AAR, it would need some modification for AA50 for reasons mentioned above (changed BB CA bombard rules, changes to sub rules)

http://www.daak.de/indexe.php3

I would agrue that for AA50 to BB and CA should fire with the ground forces and subs should only fire separately if no DD present, to reduce the variance.

DAAK use an SBR table where the attacker loses 2-3 IPCs (50% chance for each) per turn, from your starting cash pool (as in AAR bomber loses 2.5 IPCs on avergae vs AA gun [cost $15 in AAR]) and inflict 2-3-4 (33% each) IPCs damge to an IC in a 6+ territory since bombers inflict on average 2.92 IPCs per SBR vs AA gun. If no AA then attacker loses nothing and inflicts 3-4 IPCs (50% each)

Different damage tables handle different scenarios (max IPC caps for terrirory value and also with/without AA firing).

Pretty annoying for F2F games though, I personally prefer LL online but ADS in F2F since the calculations really make a live game drag on for ever and ever.

Just roll them all at once.  As long as you use different colors for different attack powers (ie all 1’s roll white, all 2’s roll red, all 3’s roll blue and all 4’s roll yellow or something) or you just roll for each attack power separately, you are fine.  No need to roll each individual bomber since all the hits total up at the end anyway.

In classic, while playing the Axis I got three out of 3 hits with my AA gun on American bombers doing an SBR.  thats 216 to 1.  Pretty darn lucky.