Balanced Multi Theater Play, is it plausable?


  • I have never seen the polar express being much of a threat, only once in a game (41, NOs, LL, no tech, no bids) rnd 5-6, axis already had a big advantage, not b/c of polar express, but b/c Germany and Italy was stronger than UK+Russia, and Japan had already secured the Asian mainland, axis had an economic advantage, and so US had to build a lot of stuff to take back Alalska, but the game was already lost before this happend, instead of going straght for Moscow, Japan slowed itself down, but with big enough production advantage, it was the economic factors which decided the game, not the polar express.
    And also, in LL, allies need a bid. Not so obvious that allies need a bid or the same amount in ADS. And most discussions here are with ADS setting, b/c most players who frequent aa.org uses ADS not LL.

    The inferior strats which can be used sometimes, is related to lack of experience and playing skills, and a possible unbalance, not nessecarily the strat itself. Like in AAR, allies can probably win many games with a KJF strat, if axis don’t get any bids.


  • @Subotai:

    Like in AAR, allies can probably win many games with a KJF strat, if axis don’t get any bids.

    Well, at least in Revised allies can win with KJF, and that even with axis bid. I don’t think KJF is a inferior strat in Revised by the way

    But in vanilla AA50, 1941, allies cannot win, KGF or KJF, unless bad axis strat or bad axis dices (and better a combo of both)


  • @Funcioneta:

    Well, at least in Revised allies can win with KJF, and that even with axis bid. I don’t think KJF is a inferior strat in Revised by the way

    But in vanilla AA50, 1941, allies cannot win, KGF or KJF, unless bad axis strat or bad axis dices (and better a combo of both)

    I have never lost to a KJF, and I’m not an expert revised player.


  • @Subotai:

    I have never lost to a KJF, and I’m not an expert revised player.

    Well, playing online, I also never lost to KJF in Revised, mainly because nobody tried it  :| But I was 5th in last revised league using KJF as default strat (I only had to shift to KGF one time). And in fact I improved my results as axis when I changed from JTDTM to Polar Express

    So I have my doubts of KGF being superior even in Revised


  • @Funcioneta:

    So I have my doubts of KGF being superior even in Revised

    Then you should join the TripleA warclub ladder at: http://www.tripleawarclub.org/

    Most players use KGF, so if KJF is more effective than KGF, you’ll soon be at the top of the ladder.

    I don’t play revised anymore, b/c AA50 is much better. In a few months AA42 will be released, and AAR will be replaced by AA42.


  • Funcioneta: I have a simple question for you.  Why do you contently jump into every thread and claim that AA50 41 is unplayable and completely broken needed insane bids like 30 + saying what you believe works and doesn’t work even when others disagree with you when you have said that you will not even play the 41 game anymore?  Yesh just make a single rant post/thread about your hate with 41 then move on if you don’t like it.


  • I’ll not play vanilla one to one 1941 anymore. I decided not to play more 1941 league games because of the unjust bid system, who gives axis bid units and allies bid cash (it makes the bid go to 30s, while unit bids could be enough with 12-15 being the absolute minimal 6). When a system that let allies a unit bid appears, I’ll back to 1941 league. Until that, I’ll stick to Revised or 1942 scenario games

    You would be also a bit sad if axis would recieve cash bids and allies units bids and you would think axis needs a bid

    But I agree with you, I have few convincing power. Maybe is lost time trying give economical, TUV and positional reasons of unbalance when many people use KGF as a magic wand :|


  • I just read the rules thread in the PBF forum, and on this specific rule issue I agree with Func, even if I don’t do PBF, I can’t see any reason why there are different rules for the two sides.

    This is only a technicality though and is not near as important as if either side needs a $9(+) unit bid to survive.

    This shouldn’t be any problem in reality if you get axis with 0, and if allies need a $12 unit bid then you certainly win all the games you play. I would not mind playing allies (in revised) every game in ladder/league system against a $0 axis bid. Could be fun, but whats the point?

    So why are you not at the top of the aa.org league Func, when you can have axis every game with a $0 bid and win every game, b/c this is what you should do if allies need $9 unit bid or more.

    The reason why some players prefer KGF in AA50 is the same reason why many of us prefer KGF in revised, it’s b/c we think it’s the most effective way of winning the game with.


  • @Subotai:

    So why are you not at the top of the aa.org league Func, when you can have axis every game with a $0 bid and win every game, b/c this is what you should do if allies need $9 unit bid or more.

    Because winning only because of the setup is even worst than winning only because of the dice  :wink: It’s simply too boring playing axis (because their huge advantage), and even if I want win as all the people, I also want have fun


  • @Funcioneta:

    Because winning only because of the setup is even worst than winning only because of the dice  :wink: It’s simply too boring playing axis (because their huge advantage), and even if I want win as all the people, I also want have fun

    There is something about balance that everyone is wrong about, except you  :roll:

    Can you believe that I don’t think you really mean what you’re saying?

    If the bid needed to balance AA50 41 is more than revised, then you would win almost every game, there is no one who will play revised w/o bids.

    Personally I’d like to win every game I play, but you don’t like to win  :roll:

    If you really are serious with this, you also think that all the other PBF players on aa.org would like to lose all the games they play against you, b/c they play allies w/o bids?

    I’m close to accusing you of trolling……

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