Sub Suprise Attack vs Battleship rules clarification…

Actually the book as 31 pages.  32 including cover.  There are 2 pages on each page when you download it.  Check the numbers on the pages.  You’ll see what I mean.

@claborne: So…. when you have a fleet of mixed subs/surface warships being attacked by only planes, you CANNOT take the subs as casualties? No, they can not be taken as casualties.  Only if the attacker sends a destroyer with his planes can your subs be removed by air attacks.

That’s correct.  It would not.

@General: In every game of axis and allies AA I have played… Subs havebeen useless.  Nobody has ever bought any subs.  Destroyers are so esily obtained and massed with a fleet they provide cover from subs.  Germany was famed for its “wolfpack” but in AA germany doesnt even get to build a fleet unless the allies are losing hard. Can anyone advocate the use of subs for any power in the game? I can’t. Sorry if I repeat someone but here goes: Point of Submarines: If you build a significant number of them before the enemy, and the enemy cannot keep up with destroyers, you can have a cheaper win. Odds of Success: Minimal at best.  Your opponent would have to be pretty dense to let you amass a huge fleet of submarines without having at least 50% that number in defensive destroyers/bonus hits on battleships to soak them. Realistic Outcome: Either no one has submarines, or everyone has submarines and no one has a surface fleet.  It just seems that’s where things pan out.  This is awesome since no one can really win the game without surface ships since both sides have an island capitol.

I have seen a few Allied players skip the Flying Tiger attack. It is not a move I agree with. I will sacrifice Japanese planes I CAN REPLACE to take out that plane that can not be. It gives China a chance at offensive attacks and some defense. I see no reason for Japan not to attack China. While killing all the Chinese troops in round 1 of a '41 game can be a bit of a stretch, the flying Tigers and some other territories should be attacked. While Japan may not want to spend the effort to totally eliminate China it is worthwhile to reduce them to just Chinghai. This way they can not produce any troops and are no longer relevant. From the Allied side it is worth Russia’s troubles to send some forces to China to delay the Japanese. If China can be held to 2 or 3 territories they will produce free infantry and increase the amount of forces Japan has to commit for an advance through the central Asian front. In most games Russia will eventually have to retreat it’s forces as the Japanese become too numerous to hold out over China and its infantry, but again the whole idea was to delay Japan anyway. As far as other Allied liberations occurring these are very rare. Normally this will be done by the US and it will also normally be after all the high value UK territories and the Philippines have been liberated. I would say just come to grips with the reality that China is a good idea badly implemented in AA50.

thanks krieg

@A-Former-User said in Repairing a Battleship?: @axis_roll Ok, I guess it was bad planning by having my aircraft carrier fleet without proper protection of a destroyer. I lost 5 fighters after that battle. Thanks for the tip! That is brutal! I will have to remember to protect my fleets like this. I have built some large fleets mostly with aircraft carriers and fighters and I now realize how vulnerable they were…

OK that helps!