Sub Suprise Attack vs Battleship rules clarification…

@AxisOfEvil: @Romulus: Krieghund already explained that it is a problem of wording, the word selected “attack” should have been “surprise strike” or “surprise firing”, if I am not making a mistake. I am not english born but I am considering that “surprise attack” has been not used to indicate the “attack” but the roll of the dice trying to hit the enemy. I do not see the need for a specification for the sub being in defense being able to perform a surprise strike. It is a sub ability to stay hidden and strike by surprise. It do not depend by the role in the battle, the sub is  aiming to hit the enemy in both case, attack and defense, acting in the same way: lurking below the surface, hidden and dangerous. given this logic, which I am not disputing, why then do subs defend at 1 and attack at 2?  same reason why fighters attack at 3 and defend at 4 

Subs submerge before any dice are rolled, attacker first then defender.  At the time the USA player rolled his hits, the decision should have already been made and acted upon.

Thanks guys. Understand now. Looking forward to starting a game after work tonight

@Panther Thank you also for the quick helpful reply. It’s great to have a forum like this for the game, thanks again!!

@Gamer: I think he’s saying I’ve attached his list (which it is HIS list, by the way), but I managed to post it before he could. Yes.  It’s hard to get news out before someone else does these days, with all the watchful eyes out there.  @Gamer: P.S. – Thanks, Krieghund, for your hard work.  I’m just making sure you get your props.

LHTR fixes some issues with box rules.  You can find the rules, and a discussion about them, on Larry’s site.

So…. Yes… the Submarine gets to shoot at my transport during combat (and i should not have brought the transport along) No… I may not land my troops after the surface warships are cleared, simply because there was a battle in the first place and the sub is still there Yes… I may retreat my dumb transport and fighters

Thanks for the help… But Its too late for the poor Russians on the eastern front. I lost everything due to a jap attack with 5 fighters.