Italy Uses and Reasons for Being

Italy is Mr Navy for a fact… LOL !  They start with a better Navy than Germany (Whose ships should be annihilated on Round 1) and you can just add more and more Navy to Italy every round… you don’t have to worry about the ‘lag’ Uk has near India…

The Italians are Laughing !!

@Bardoly:

In our games, the bigest problem is that if UK or US really wants to in the early stages of the game, either one can usually sink Italy’s fleet, and there goes Italy.

Axis must be employing a poor strategy if that is possible.

@Bardoly:

In our games, the bigest problem is that if UK or US really wants to in the early stages of the game, either one can usually sink Italy’s fleet, and there goes Italy.

Which is historically exactly what happened. The British raid on Taranto so weakened the Italian fleet, psychologically more than physically, that it barely dared put to sea and spent the rest of the war skulking in the Adriatic.

Regarding Italy in Africa, my version gives Italy control of all Vichy territories as well as Finland and Romania, which means that Italy starts with more of the map than Germany, albeit mostly worthless desert.  This makes the med/Africa very much an Italian affair, though they can feed “Italian” units into Russia via Finland and Romania.

Exact but not complete.

Italy was weakend at Taranto because Regia Marina lost, definitely, 1 BB and two more BBs where badly damaged. Psychologically the UK raid at Taranto had the effect you said.
However Regia Marina tried to organize an offensive action of the Fleet in the March of 1941. 1 BBs escorted by 6 CA and various DD and covered by land based planes were used for attacking the Brithish shipping reinforcements to Greece. The raid ended with Italian lost of 3 CA and BB Vittorio Veneto (flagship) torpedoed.
This shown the risk of operating with the Fleet without having air cover provided by ACs.
From that days the Italian Fleet was used only in the sea near to the Italy.

Maybe in Anniversary an Italian AC could be useful?

In my last game, when the allies realized Italy was pretty well doing what it wanted (after it took caucasus for germany), they sent the American fleet snooping around.  I bought an aircraft carrier and auto placed my two fighters on it, which sent the fleet skulking away.

Maybe in Anniversary an Italian AC could be useful?

Keeping the Italian navy is vital to mount a threat and keep those bonuses floating. Buying a CV is the way to get defensive points to match the UK/US attacks. I bought a CV on turn 2 in a game and landed first the Italian fighter and then one German fighter on it, that really slowed down the Allies. You can then add DDs to get extra hit points.

Of course, almost always Italy will be the first Axis power to go and it will signal the defeat of the Axis in most games. Which means playing Italy well is a crucial thing!

When it comes to optional rules I think they should go together. If Italy is hindered by the rule that the Black Sea is blocked, they really need interceptors since their economy is so vulnerable to SBR.

From the moment I opened the box I saw that Italy was going to be very useful to the Axis, and it turns out they are. The guys I play with underestimate the power of Italy, and I’ve done quite well in handling their actions in the Mediterranean, but I have yet to conquer all of Afrika and show the Allies what they can do. It’s only a matter of time.

If the Japanese take over the British Empire in the East, and the Italians manage to break through into the underbelly of Afrika, the allies and most importantly the UK have a big problem on their hands.

In the games we have played, the fate of Italy determines the fate of the Axis.

If Italy does well and can hold off the USA/UK incursions into the Med, then the Axis as a whole do well.

However, if the USA/UK combine to get into and stay in the Med then Italy is doomed and therefore the Axis is doomed too!

The Allies strat ought to be KIF

well, if italy is attacking russia for shoere shots, they will soon be the “axis china” , producing 1- 3 inf per turn. the games where i had italy, there was not one single round ( except first) where he was not SBRed. so once italy falls, better make sure russia is down next round or germany is doomed.

I agree with you Jennifer,  Italy (if ignored for at least 3 turns) can turn into a monster, and before you know it Africa is gone.  Also in one game I played the US and UK ignored Italy for 5 whole turns and by the time they sent thier fleet down to stop them Italy had a monster of a fleet and sank both the US’s fleet and the UK’s fleet thus giving Germany time to take Russia.