Will the National Objectives benefit the Axis or the Allies


  • The problem with KJF is that if you are playing against top players you won’t win with this strat, except maybe one in 10 games by luck.
    If axis get no bids for a fun game, then that is different.

    For AA50, I would not be worried that Japan may threaten the US mainland if Japan is not contested in the pacific, even if playing with NOs. I would be worried that a 65 ipc Jap is fully able to take and hold Moscow….


  • I would think AA50 is scripted to a balanced game so either can’t be exclusively pursued. Most likely the NO are favored to KGF, but the terms KGF and KJF or (whatever is this weeks term for totally ignoring Japan) lose all meaning because both theaters of war have to be pursued to win the game. I am quite sure Larry saw the problem is ignoring a part of the map and giving more meaning to a balanced game. One of the big things was to lower Naval costs, so Pacific sea battles are more viable.

    Thank god that Japan has no objectives in USSR, but only focus on the Pacific, while US has both Euro and Asian objectives. UK mostly is in Euro, along with the Soviets. W/O playing the NO’s i would admit its back to the same mumbo jumbo as before.

    Lastly, don’t look at AA50 thru the ‘filter’ of Revised strategic ideas. Its totally different ballgame now. Thank god for that too.


  • Yes but they are linked. If you concentrate on NO’s the result will be eventually taking the VC, but yes w/o using optional NO the game is entirely as you state.


  • @axis_roll:

    Don’t get me wrong, I like to KJF, it’s more fun, since it IS harder to execute.  I like a challenge.  Probably why I like to play the Axis… they’re the underdog.

    So KJF is an underdog type of allied strategy.   :wink:

    KJF is harder of master, not of execute. When you master KJF, it’s more powerful than a mastered KGF. First, because very few people know how counter KJF and many start to do strange things. Second, because it’s easier for axis reach economic parity in KGF than in KGF. Third, for league games, I found it’s easier reach 9 VCs with KJF (Manila, Shangai, Paris). Fourth, a KGF strat let Japan try invade american mainland (a strat I still don’t master, but seems very nasty in a initial KGF game)

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