Italy + SBR = destruction?

i go for italy, but only when i am going usa atlantic 100% with intent to land in italy.
one of the downsides of bombing italy, is that they usually only produce 2-3 units per turn.  so to make your bombing effective, you have to deal at least 6 damage, since they can just shrug off the first 4 damage.
however, if you have 3-4 or so total bombers between the usa and uk (easy if none get shot down), then italy is in a world of pain and can only build like 1 infantry per turn.
do a turn 4 or 5 landing with 4 or so transports full of american guys, and well… thats basically my allied strategy right there.

After further consideration I no longer feel the fighter escort/interceptor rule needs any fine tuning. In my previous posts I expressed the view that the rule nerfed strategic bombing too much but I’ve since changed my mind. After all, bombing raids over inland German targets without escorts was near suicidal, especially during the daylight. It wasn’t until the Allies had deployed long range escort fighters and had outnumbered the defending Luftwaffe aircraft, that the Allies were able to conduct bombing missions without terrible loses. The same is true with the fighter escort/interceptor rule as it stands now and it should stay that way.

Welcome to the forums Merlin!  My brother, a work friend and I played a game this weekend.  We started at 9am and went on till 6pm!  The game did manage to finish with Axis getting 16 Victory cities.  Our games usually take a long time because we do not get to play often, so my brothers and cousins go at a slower pace.  If you get to play more frequently, people will fall into their groove and the game should start flowing faster.  Good luck with the next game!

Always had Germany play Italy, as it’s the extra play where in AAR it wasn’t a case to think about what to do with the teritory in Italy that Germany had. Think just comes as a norm.

Or…let the two Axis plan Italy together, be more team bonding.

It’s like if it’s 2 playing Allies… the UK player would play America, or play US as a team.

Corsica was Vichy, but in 1942 Hitler got pissed off and took alot of their allowance away because they kept waving white flags when the Allies attacked them. Corsica was administered by Germany but its really in the Italian sphere of influence.

http://encarta.msn.com/sidebar_761593961/germany_occupies_vichy_france.html

i know its nov 42, but still close enough… if your more of a purist then just give Sardinia 1 IPC but call the actual land territory

“Sardinia
Corsica”
  1IPC

I agree with Gallo Rojo.
The majority of italian sculpts are recycled from other axis nations and this is a lost opportunity for making Anniversary a “perfect” edition. Moreover the brown colour for Italy is a sub-optimal choice

Only one thing I do not agree. USSR received a lot of truck, half-truck and other necessary supplies. Thanks to this supplies Soviet Industry has been able to focus on building only tanks, guns and rifles. Despite that the great majority of USSR units moved on foot and logistic was made using horses! Only Soviet Tank Armies (of wich only 5 existed) where mechanized. The remaining part of the Red Army went on fight like the Armies of the WW1, by train to the front and then on foot. German Army was more mechnized than Red Army and German were losing the War.
Having not her economy supported by USA the Red Army should have a lot of logistic problems.

So, I have always thought that in A&A factors like: turn order, IPC and initial set up are related not only to the quantity but also to the quality and training of the units, to the logistic, and to the economic organization of a nation. Anniversary confirm this idea, having two different set up with different turn orders.

@Krupp:

@Krieghund:

Unfortunately, it didn’t get a unique sculpt.  They reused the Japanese bomber, molded in brown.  Apparently they thought that the Japanese Betty more closely resembled an actual Italian bomber than any of the other existing sculpts.

Thanks for a quick answer :-), but either way I would have liked a unique sculpt even if it was ugly looking :-P

I do not want to enter in a discussion about italian miniatures, it seems that the majority of the players are not interested in this aspect and, furthermore, A&A Anniversary is not a miniature game. So it is ok to use an already available mini.

However also I would like to have a unique sculpt for the Italian bombers. Moreover, it is really unclear to me where they discovered the similarity with the Betty.

The Japanese Betty was a medium bomber with two engine.
The more representative Italian Bomber the Savoia Marchetti SM-79 “Sparviero” (sparrowhawk) was a three engine medium bomber, used for level bombing and also as torpedo bomber. Moreover the SM-79 was really a bad looking airplane, it was knew in Italy as the “Gobbo” (humpbacked) for the layout of the body. For this reason it is similar to the Betty in the same manner that the Ju-88 is similar to the B-17. It was a stubborn airplane, used in several roles and missions.

The Regia Aeronautica (Italian Royal Airforce) entered the war with a respectable force of bombers so it is obvious that Italy get a Bomber.

@mwindianapolis:

I would not think that italy should change sides. But it would be fun if italy could be it own side, and try to take over the world independant of germany and japan. long shot, but a true gammer could try.

Thats 2000 years too late    :roll: