People getting worse, or am I actually getting better?


  • I’m ashamed to admit it   :oops: but, I have not played anything but revised since it came out and as far as classic I don’t think I’ve played it since my days in the military…15yrs ago. :mrgreen:

    Back than I only played the few dudes that I could find that were even remotely interested in the game, and I sure as heck did not know of anyone that actually competed in tournaments or discussed strategy outside of the time it took to play, so I’ve never even played it with a bid, I never heard of it back than…it was not in the rule book so I had no idea it even existed.

    And now, since I unfortunately I don’t have the time to game like I did so many years ago  :cry:, when  I do get to game I only play the revised because I believe revised is such a better game than classic.  So with limited game times, I only want to only play the “better game”.  :|

    I think the majority of players that you are going to compete with online now that are willing to try classic are probably “worse” not because they are rusty but because they know less about classic  :? in general than revised.  Most Online players (generally speaking) are probably of the “post classic age” (young pups) and simply haven’t played it.

    Taking revised as an example, I thought I was a decent player.  Than a friend of a friend told me about tripleA, and when I played it online I ran across “the bid”, “low Luck” and “Territory Turn Limit”, things that to a dude that just bought and played the boxed game with a few friends I had not even heard of.  I must have played 30+games before I even came close to winning. (I figured I must have really sucked  :-o or I was a slow learner  :?).  I can only imagine that classic players are even more out of sorts on how to best play it.

    Just a guess.


  • My cousin and I play Axis & Allies (I think 2nd edition) quite often for years.

    I honestly have no idea what most of the jargon in this thread is heh.


  • Jargon:

    Low Luck is basically adding all attack or defense divide by 6= hits per round, fractions roll out so if you got 20, then you got 3 hits and you roll a 4th die with another hit on 2 or less.


  • @Imperious:

    Jargon:

    Low Luck is basically adding all attack or defense divide by 6= hits per round, fractions roll out so if you got 20, then you got 3 hits and you roll a 4th die with another hit on 2 or less.

    So then what is “Territory Turn Limit”

    LT


  • Edit: err, nevermind ~ZP


  • TTL, territory turn limit means that the maximum amount of damage done by each SBR attack, is same as the ipc value of the territory.


  • As a player that has not played 2nd edition, I can speak little on this subject.  :x

    I’m lucky if I can find enough players once a year to play.  :?


  • post in players wanted section. or start a meetup.com group in your area. Find a hobby/game store and arrange the members to play one sat each month during store hours.


  • I still favor a PAf bid over a PE bid. With PE you kinda need to win quick, because you pretty much neglect Africa and leave Japan in a hole. In my experience PE bid games are most of the time short games, where either the Allies keep Russia, or the Axis takes Russia. Those concepts will happen after 3-4 rounds finishing the game and leaves either the Axis or the Allies fight in a lost position.

    The difficulty with a PAf bid of 21 is that you will have 6 inf and 1 arm in Lib. You attack Egypt and in a low luck game you will 5 inf + arm remaining if lady luck favor you. The hard part about this is that the UK will almost suicide with 3 inf, 1 fig and 1 bomb on egypt and with a little luck leave the axis with 1 arm or 1 arm and 1 inf screwing over your whole PAf bid… If you use 2 inf from SEu to fortify Egypt you will have a hard time in Europe and if you put an extra inf in Lib from manch (from the bid) you will have a chance that Russia and England will go for it setting you back a lot…

    Its a long time ago I discussed strats for 2nd ed A&A, but still fun.


  • @Cmdr:

    I don’t understand how Power Africa negates the ability of Kwangbang.  To be honest, unless Japan gets 6 IPC of the bid (1 Infantry for Manchuria and 1 Infantry for Kwangtung) I don’t see much that would stop the allies from attacking those territories.  Far better to destroy the Japanese fighter in Manchuria then cower in Yakut, I believe.

    Why would you want to spread those two inf? If the allies can’t take both its not worth it… So if you have 5 inf, 1 arm and 1 fig vs 5(I don’t remember if it was 5 or 6), 1 arm and 1 fig… You won’t get the jap fig, but accomplish that Japan can easily walk through Asia and if you take kwantung (Germany will get a huge IPC boost, because they can hold Africa so much longer), you won’t really set back the Japanese…

    Btw a PAs bid should be around 32 to make the game interesting…


  • I will have to play a game of classic as well. Interesting to see my skills since I havent played that in like 10 years.

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    @Bashir:

    @Cmdr:

    I don’t understand how Power Africa negates the ability of Kwangbang.  To be honest, unless Japan gets 6 IPC of the bid (1 Infantry for Manchuria and 1 Infantry for Kwangtung) I don’t see much that would stop the allies from attacking those territories.  Far better to destroy the Japanese fighter in Manchuria then cower in Yakut, I believe.

    Why would you want to spread those two inf? If the allies can’t take both its not worth it… So if you have 5 inf, 1 arm and 1 fig vs 5(I don’t remember if it was 5 or 6), 1 arm and 1 fig… You won’t get the jap fig, but accomplish that Japan can easily walk through Asia and if you take kwantung (Germany will get a huge IPC boost, because they can hold Africa so much longer), you won’t really set back the Japanese…

    Btw a PAs bid should be around 32 to make the game interesting…

    Then you used the wrong term.  PA = Power AFRICA.  PJ or something should be Power Japan which then yes, if you waste 2 or 3 infantry from the bid in Manchuria (which means Germany is probably putting 3 or 4 infantry into Africa then) there is no point to a Kwangbang.


  • In a Pafr bid(around 21-24), there usually goes 1-2 inf of the bid to Manch. And you are correct, a PowerAsia bid should be around 32…

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