One further question belonging this topic: How is it if Germany does not buy the carrier. This means that Germany did not spend any money in the sea but made the same attack with the med-fleet in WMD (and took Gibraltar). The attack on EGY is again only with the bid plus some air from Germany.
How would you react? What are good counters in this case? Maybe the same moves as already mentioned? I would prefer to spend less money in the sea with UK in this case. The immediate attack against the German Baltic Navy is on the other side very very risky.
Thanks for replies!
UK can go air, 2-3 ftrs or even drop a trn. Unification isn’t a threat, but with no additional naval buy Germany may employ some type of Channel Dash strat, where they try to thin out the Allied ships and open them up to a G2 air attack.
I still go AC with the US, but maybe only 1 ftr (or bom). The Baltic fleet dies on UK 2 (4-5 ftrs + bom) and the Med fleet dies in rd 3 or 4.
As for the bids brought up, an 8 bid is not scary at all. It may change things but a trn/sub bid is weaker than an inf/arm on the front lines.
If your intent is to attack Egy, just bid the units to Lib, otherwise your pulling 4 units from Europe and still not going to be able to threaten the Atlantic. If you want to attack Egy and Trj the inf/arm is still better (bid for Egy, trn for TJ), or instead you can use them to attack and take Gib (bid fro Egy trn/bb for Gib).
The trn bid essentially locks Germany into having a BB and 2 trns in Sz 15 at the end of G1.
A sub bid for the Atlantic is not much help since Egy is now opened to a rd 1 dicey and is a green light for an aggressive Russia. Sure you can play nice in the Atlantic, but your likely to see Russia go Wrus/Ukr (seeing the sub placed in Sz 12), while UK will easily counter Egy. Russia probably holds Ukr permanently by round 3.
Japanese 8 bids are typically weaker than German 8 bids. While another trn is fun, it again doesn’t help with Egy and essentially locks in very specific moves for Germany. Having a vast Pacific Empire won’t help if Germany is boxed in by round 4 and the Allies simply retreated to Novo/Kaz in the East. It still takes Japan 3-4 turns to get new units to the front lines and they’ll still need an IC.
You are much better off boosting Germany early giving Japan the much needed time to get its war machine up an running.
Even with Unrestricted placement I won’t bid less than 9.
I will say I don’t think new players should start with bids, or immediately jump into 7,8, or 9 bids just b/c they read that may be the going rate. Bid amount is directly related to how well you can coordinate all 3 Allies play and how well you work as one unit. The better you are at that the more you can give up.