1939: World at War



  • @EmuGod:

    Yes, the British also lost around 250,000 but they lost more than the Americans.

    in world war two? are you sure only 250,000?



  • Here are some stats to ponder.

    Where you find extra digits they refer to footnotes (e.g., 3,250,0004 the final “4” is a footnote number).

    These are military figures only. For instance, Soviets lost more than 20million including civilians, while this chart shows 6mm dead for USSR. “Men in War” means over course of war (so your figures of 16mm US, etc. roughly match these – although it is interesting that NO figure is given for Soviets – certainly the Nazis underestimated the resources at Stalin’s disposal, and certainly the USSR kept records out of sight for decades after, but some guesses could be made based on total population. US total pop in 1940 was 130mm, and Soviet was somewhere north of 200mm. Germany was 70mm or 80mm – interesting, as 80mm is the total pop of unified Germany today).

    This table can be found at:::: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004619.html

    Casualties in World War II

    Country Men in war Battle deaths Wounded
    Australia 1,000,000 26,976 180,864
    Austria 800,000 280,000 350,117
    Belgium 625,000 8,460 55,5131
    Brazil2 40,334 943 4,222
    Bulgaria 339,760 6,671 21,878
    Canada 1,086,3437 42,0427 53,145
    China3 17,250,521 1,324,516 1,762,006
    Czechoslovakia — 6,6834 8,017
    Denmark — 4,339 —
    Finland 500,000 79,047 50,000
    France — 201,568 400,000
    Germany 20,000,000 3,250,0004 7,250,000
    Greece — 17,024 47,290
    Hungary — 147,435 89,313
    India 2,393,891 32,121 64,354
    Italy 3,100,000 149,4964 66,716
    Japan 9,700,000 1,270,000 140,000
    Netherlands 280,000 6,500 2,860
    New Zealand 194,000 11,6254 17,000
    Norway 75,000 2,000 —
    Poland — 664,000 530,000
    Romania 650,0005 350,0006 —
    South Africa 410,056 2,473 —
    U.S.S.R. — 6,115,0004 14,012,000
    United Kingdom 5,896,000 357,1164 369,267
    United States 16,112,566 291,557 670,846
    Yugoslavia 3,741,000 305,000 425,000

    1. Civilians only.2. Army and navy figures.3. Figures cover period July 7, 1937–Sept. 2, 1945, and concern only Chinese regular troops. They do not include casualties suffered by guerrillas and local military corps.4. Deaths from all causes.5. Against Soviet Russia; 385,847 against Nazi Germany.6. Against Soviet Russia; 169,822 against Nazi Germany.7. National Defense Ctr., Canadian Forces Hq., Director of History.NOTE: The figures in this table are unofficial estimates obtained from various sources.



  • wowyou even have Bulgaria



  • Of course he would, Bulgaria was part of the Axis.



  • until the soviets went into romania then we changed into allies and had soldiers fight aganst the germans



  • @Mr:

    @TG:

    with what force?
    the one occupied with the Germans?

    The Russians had a 30 million man army. I think an amble force could’ve been diverted to hold the Japanese - at least until the Germans were pushed back.

    I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one……
    30 million man army… :roll: no.

    I agree with Mr. Ghoul. There are a lot of people in this forum who dont know shit about ww2 (the real stuff). It is not shear size that dozz it (like your girlfriends probably keeps telling you). In the start of the war between russia and germany russia had the worlds greatest army. After only a few weeks a far smaller but more modern german army had reduced the russian army to a joke - and taken over a million (I shit you not) of prisoners. If not for the UK and for USA Russia would have become the victim of the worlds first modern army!



  • Just a quick point (although this is waaaaay old):

    Finland doesn’t have any mountainous terrain. It has old, weathered, rounded hills in the east and the north, and that’s it. The advantage was gained from the forests, marshes and the temperature. Russian forces in the north and east were compelled to use certain lines of advance where there were roads and this lead to the decisive Finnish victories where they blocked off whole Russian divisions front and rear along a road and then chewed them up slowly over a period of days as the men froze to death and couldn’t protect the miles of flank spread out along the forest edge (‘motti’ tactics).

    The Finns, by contrast were able to even build saunas fairly near to the fighting, allowing the men to rotate, get clean and warm and recuperate for later combat.

    Caractacus.



  • @guest:

    @Mr:

    @TG:

    with what force?
    the one occupied with the Germans?

    The Russians had a 30 million man army. I think an amble force could’ve been diverted to hold the Japanese - at least until the Germans were pushed back.

    I just stoped reading the posts when I came to this one……
    30 million man army… :roll: no.

    I agree with Mr. Ghoul. There are a lot of people in this forum who dont know sht about ww2 (the real stuff). It is not shear size that dozz it (like your girlfriends probably keeps telling you). In the start of the war between russia and germany russia had the worlds greatest army. After only a few weeks a far smaller but more modern german army had reduced the russian army to a joke - and taken over a million (I sht you not) of prisoners. If not for the UK and for USA Russia would have become the victim of the worlds first modern army!

    I agree with you when you say that a lot of people in this forum don’t know alot about WW2… But no offense to you because I don’t really know what you have studied up, but from my research and looking at the figures and statistics, you have something wrong about the russian front… The Russians did indeed lose 1 Million to prisoners and took casulties but you forget to mention that the Germans took casulties as well… and the germans were not a MODERN ARMY… the german army was not all that the movies make it out to be…i’ll take the West front at D-day( it comes off the top of my head) of 44 div. facing the invasion 1 was mech. 1/2 was armor and the remaining42 1/2 div. were foot soldiers and horses (the germans were dependent at that point on 1,250,000 horses) and the standard ww2 inf. rifle for the germans was the WW1 german rifle which was bolt action! the russians on the otherhand had much better rifles… and tanks…the german tanks couldn’t stand up against a freezing russian winter because there equipment all froze… there tanks were made for Western european weather which is less extreme in winter. the russian tanks were built for there winter…the german tanks made it into russia in summer but not many made it out in winter… they also did not have the fuel to win… all the axis combined had only 3% percent of the world’s oil, the allies 91%… because they didn’t have the trucks they used trains to move the supplies in… most of the invasion of russia was based on trains and when you use the enemy train lines and they know where they are…the russians guerrillas used scorched earth as a strategy so in reality the germans were not really gaining anything contrary to AaA…so the germans entered russia and were starting very victorious but they blotched up everything: logistics, Supplies, Weapons, and eventually strategy… they russians were producing a lot of equipment in fact using less rescources made more Weapons then the germans…so the russians really won right when the snow fell in Russia…



  • consider too that the Germans by the end of the war were using their trains to transport Jews to the concentration camps as per Hitler’s obsession in preference to supplying their eastern lines.



  • very true…


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