• i think Xi is being a little less “Amerocentric” than you are, TG. The fact is that America benefits/profits from the Brain Drain of almost every other country, especially Canada. We lose our best and brightest engineers, computer programmers, physicians, etc. to America yearly. Canada may benefit from a brain drain of other nations, however not nearly as much in the medical sector as we recognise VERY few residency programs outside of Canada as most are considered inferior (including America, India, Britain etc.). This means that we have few qualified physicians replacing the ones drained to America.


  • If you have a bold plan to convince American doctors to defect, I’m all ears. No one is forcing them to come here - it is according to their own will. Also we in the States already have a shortage of qualified doctors, and with the amount of trainning required, importing brains is often needed. Plus since Americans are considered ignorant - you may say the brain drain is almost necessary.


  • It sounds as though the US is a veritable mental vacuum.


  • That’s good. More smart people for me! :D


  • The AMA (or whoever is in charge of this) has set quotas on the # of Drs. that will be graduated each year. It keeps the $ where and how the specialists want it(a lot in their pockets.)

    Doctors, lawyers and politicians. (expletive deleted)! At least with politicians, we can vote them out of office. Too bad we don’t every chance we get(term limits are a GREAT idea, since all politicians are bad, EXCEPT OURS)! - Xi


  • Seriously? There are not even enough doctors to fill the demand.


  • @TG:

    Seriously? There are not even enough doctors to fill the demand.

    and you can imagine that if the States is having this problem, then Canada - a nation still not graduating enough doctors merely to meet the demand, yet hemorrhaging them to the States is in line for a little more trouble.


  • It will be hard even to find enough doctors without this AMA restriction. Not that many people are willing to invest so much money and effort - even for a large salary (though in US, many doctors are paid very low).


  • @TG:

    It will be hard even to find enough doctors without this AMA restriction. Not that many people are willing to invest so much money and effort - even for a large salary (though in US, many doctors are paid very low).

    large salary - it’s not just about money, but lifestyle. If a doctor can move from Canada to the US, make the same KIND of money (i.e. maintain a certain standard of living) by working less than half as many hours, and pay fewer taxes, then many of them may do that.
    Canadian physicians also enjoy higher status in the US than here much of the time - including better research positions, heads of departments, etc. Due to our training the US is fertile ground for the upwardly mobile.


  • A high percentage of Americans doctors are not worth the money their charging.


  • Yeah, sometimes you have to deal with it.


  • @Mr:

    A high percentage of Americans doctors are not worth the money their charging.

    reminds me of a funny story:
    A friend of mine - an ER and intensive care doctor - occassionally moonlights as a family physician doing locums (i.e. filling in) for other family doc’s. One day an American woman comes in for a regional exam (basically just a run-of-the-mill medical complaint). At this time, the Canadian tariff (or fee) for a regional was around $15.85 Canadian - just around $10.00 US.
    You can see it coming, can’t you . . .
    He asks her for the $10.00 and she turns and asks him “are you sure you’re a real doctor?”
    Since then he routinely bills Americans $100.00 - just so he looks like a legitimate physician.
    (sorry if this isn’t funny - i didn’t lie - i laughed at the time he told it . . . maybe because of his delivery . . . )


  • :lol:
    Good one, c_c_,

    Hospitals have great humor stories as well as horror stories.
    Years ago I worked as a psychiatric nurse aid. Once, the
    Hospital Admin. sent posters to the units. Every unit had to
    hang them in plain view. The poster said -

    WE ARE
    COMMITED
    TO QUALITY

    The psych. unit administration paid no attention to the posters.
    However, the staff saw it coming and tried to warn them. :D
    Over the holiday weekend(Christmas) some of the patients
    asked for copies of the poster. They folded it so the top two
    lines were showing.

    WE ARE
    COMMITED

    Then they posted them all over the unit. Visitors, patients and
    grunts saw them for four days with NO PROBLEMS, but a lot of
    laughs. Then the unit Admin. came in and threw a FIT! Unit
    admin. fought with hospital admin. to put the posters where
    staff alone could see them. Patients and visitors COMPLAINED.
    The next weekend (New Year) one patient had friends bring in
    'improved" posters. On Monday, the unit admin. came in to walls plastered with

    WE ARE
    COMMITED

    What a hoot! - Xi

    “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.” - Sigmund Freud

    Xi agrees.


  • reminds me of a funny story:
    A friend of mine - an ER and intensive care doctor - occassionally moonlights as a family physician doing locums (i.e. filling in) for other family doc’s. One day an American woman comes in for a regional exam (basically just a run-of-the-mill medical complaint). At this time, the Canadian tariff (or fee) for a regional was around $15.85 Canadian - just around $10.00 US.
    You can see it coming, can’t you . . .
    He asks her for the $10.00 and she turns and asks him “are you sure you’re a real doctor?”
    Since then he routinely bills Americans $100.00 - just so he looks like a legitimate physician.

    Kinda said really, but coming from CC, Hahahhahah… :lol:

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