Iraq

@Mary:

@Jennifer:

The Germans never attacked one US Citizen until after we pre-emptively attacked them, just like in Iraq.

Lol, you’re so full of sh*t you must squeak. Germany and Italy declared war on the U.S. on Dec. 11, 1941.

Now Mary, i fully understand your feeling. I’m boycotting any further debate w/ Jen just begin to try to avoid degenerating into insults. You may consider the same
Anyway - you are correct. Following Canadian spy-master William Stephenson’s leaking of the false/putative “rainbow war plans” of the US suggesting that the US was to declare war against Germany, Germany pre-emptively declared war against the US. This forced the hand of the US:

To the Congress of the United States:

On the morning of Dec. 11 the Government of Germany, pursuing its course of world conquest, declared war against the United States. The long-known and the long-expected has thus taken place. The forces endeavoring to enslave the entire world now are moving toward this hemisphere. Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization. Delay invites great danger. Rapid and united effort by all of the peoples of the world who are determined to remain free will insure a world victory of the forces of justice and of righteousness over the forces of savagery and of barbarism. Italy also has declared war against the United States.

I therefore request the Congress to recognize a state of war between the United States and Germany, and between the United States and Italy.

Well Smith?

I’m still waiting for the quoting of my stance on tech, as you so arbitrarily claimed existed.

@F_alk:

Why do the US have to implement another CIA funded (former?) really violent man/terrorist as a president? … that does not sound like a steep learning curve.

You referring to Bush or Zahwar?

Bush nor any other prez is CIA funded as Far as I know… Why would they?

So I assume you mean Zahwar?

GG

This is true, ironically enough.
I think i’m more apt to believe what the head of Hamas says than either head of government of a North American country.

@Mr:

I disagree a bit here. I don’t think this war is a question of legal or illegal.
I don’t think you can sum up this war in one question at all. It is a clouded and complicated iusse.

It truly is, and everyone has different emphasises of importance on different questions on that issue.

If one is going to agrue the legality of this war than one has to say that action in Kosovo was illegal and should not have been done. The UN, as a body, did not approve it. However, the question is was it the right thing to do? I would think yes.

But the situation was different: First it was NATO going in, second the UN later de facto approved the action.

Well, F_alk, you do bring up an interesting theory. :D

I don’t see a need to threaten shooting someone. That’s not my point. My point is not to threaten them, but simply to make it known that they person holding the gun to your head is not going to come out of the situation in one piece either. If that’s not a deterrent to attack, I don’t know what is. Think of it as “self-defense.”

In your last part, if you’re referring to Iraq, then that’s a different situation. That so-called “unarmed” person is not really unarmed. He’s simply hiding his weapon underneath his jacket. In that case, you can try to “talk” to him (which we did with Saddam) but if he won’t listen, you’ve got to draw the line somewhere, and show him who’s boss.

All I can say is, “This is amazing.” I can’t help but chuckle. :lol: