Noob Question Regarding Land Units VS Air Units and Submerged Subs

Just to make sure that building units is perfectly clear:  :-)

Units can only be mobilized in a territory that the country has owned since the beginning of its turn and contains an industrial complex (IC).  An IC is always owned by the country that owns the territory it is in.  A country can never mobilize units at an IC that belongs to another country.

If Germany takes Karelia, the IC in Karelia becomes owned by Germany, and Germany may mobilize units there on the following turn (assuming it still owns Karelia at the beginning of that turn).  If any Allied country takes Karelia back from Germany and the USSR owns Russia, Karelia is “liberated” and its IC revert to the USSR.  If any Allied country takes Karelia back from Germany and the USSR does not own Russia, Karelia is “captured” and that country owns Karelia and its IC.  If any Allied country takes Russia back from the Axis, Russia is “liberated” and reverts to the USSR, along with any other red territories held by the US or UK.  A country can never “capture” the capital of an ally - it always “liberates” it.

So, the only way that the US or UK may mobilize units in an IC in a red territory is if the Axis has captured both that territory and Russia, and then the US or UK recaptures that territory from the Axis while the Axis still holds Russia.  Until Russia is liberated, the US or UK will own that red territory and may use the IC there.

Does all this make sense?

@Heckler409:

I think I understand it now.

So basically, unless Russia is completely wiped off the map, anytime an allied force takes back the capitol, all previously owned “reddish brown” territories that allies control will revert back to Russia.  If Russia is wiped off the map, and an allied force takes the capitol, then that allied force gets to keep that capitol and any other piece of land it takes along the way.

Not exactly.  Any time a country’s capital is liberated by an ally, that country gets its capital back, along with any other of its original territories controlled by allied countries at the time.  It doesn’t matter if that country has been “wiped off the map” or not.

@Heckler409:

I’m sorry, I need to add another question in here.  Can the aircraft carrier fire on it’s own or is it like the transport?

Yes, a carrier can fire, but so can a transport if it’s defending.

You’ve been loaded up with rules answers, but I do want to chime in about other versions of A&A. None of the standard ones are an expansion of any others. Axis and Allies: Europe and :Pacific are standalone games that have separate maps and somewhat separate rules. I thoroughly enjoyed AAE back when I played it, but it’s pretty broken and kinda stale. To even the game out you have to get rid of the each-side-gets-12-ipcs-to-spend-anywhere rule and just give the Allies a bid of like 20+ I think. Still maybe worth checking out though.

I’ve only played AAP a few times, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. It’s a much more naval game. All that island-hopping you get the urge to do in A&A and AAR but can rarely pull off well–you get to do that like crazy in AAP.

I haven’t played the other ones like Battle of the Bulge or Guadalcanal. BoB seemed too much like Breakout: Normandy, and I don’t even know about Guadalcanal.

I think AAR is such an improvement over original A&A and easily the best one Avalon Hill has put out, but AAE and AAP are also fun, probably even more so than A&A.

If you’re looking for variants that mess with maps, territories, and rules, check out AAR Enhanced, AAR Historical, and Pact of Steel (which is AAR with some tweaks–and Italy!). And that’s just three variants–there are many more out there. I’ve heard Enhanced is very cool but haven’t gotten the chance to try it out yet.

@Krieghund:

@Heckler409:

I’m sorry, I need to add another question in here.  Can the aircraft carrier fire on it’s own or is it like the transport?

Yes, a carrier can fire, but so can a transport if it’s defending.

Just to clarify:
when attacking, the Carrier attacks on a 1; the transport can be taken as a casualty, but does not fire
when defending, the carrier defends on a 3, the transport defends on a 1

furthermore with carriers  any figs (including ones from other powers) on the carrier are an additional part of the defense, rolling on 4s - i.e, a fully loaded carrier rolls 3 dice hitting on one 3 (carrier) and two 4’s(the 2 figs); when a carrier attacks, any figs from the attacking power may be added to the attack (or they can fly somewhere else).  However, if there are planes from an ally of the attacker on the attacking carrier, they are considered cargo.  This means they do not participate in battle and will go down as well if the ship carrying them sinks.  On both attack and defense, any land units on the transport are cargo and can not participate in the sea battle (and they go down if that transport sinks).

Just to be thorough and make the point:

Fricking subs…