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Tasering in America – right or wrong??



  • http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/19/cnnu.tase/index.html

    So perhaps you heard.

    A student, obviously looking to make a rant/point, stepped over the line at a rally.

    While resisting arrest, he was tasered.

    Alot of students have come to his defense.

    Personally, I saw the video, thought he was being a jerk, and deserved the tasering.

    General Question - should police have the right to taser unruly suspects??

    Thoughts??


  • 2007 AAR League

    My thoughts …. YES


  • 2007 AAR League

    they should have tasered him thrice.

    he was being loud on purpose and disruptive.  its obnoxious.  his mother should have taught him to mind his P’s and Q’s.



  • @balungaloaf:

    they should have tasered him thrice.

    he was being loud on purpose and disruptive.  its obnoxious.  his mother should have taught him to mind his P’s and Q’s.

    I like the “he talked for 2 hours…I can have 2 minutes” line, after he has already rambeled on for a while. Like anyone came to hear HIM speak…

    Clearly a person screaming for attention. Well, he got it.  :evil:


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    After hearing the recordings and listening to the poor man beg for mercy from the officers, it seems to me more like he was willing to go quietly but the officers were directed to taser him.

    Maybe he asked a question he shouldn’t have?



  • @Jennifer:

    After hearing the recordings and listening to the poor man beg for mercy from the officers, it seems to me more like he was willing to go quietly but the officers were directed to taser him.

    Maybe he asked a question he shouldn’t have?

    You should watch the video….

    Where he charges to the front of the line, acts disrespectful, and breaks away several times from the officers escorting him from the premises.

    The taser was only after he resisted arrest/being booted.


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    Hard to watch video while driving and on the radio. 😛

    Anyway, from what I hear it’s a guy begging the officers not to taser him.  Once you start saying that, odds are you are not resisting and any tasering that’s happening is police brutality.

    Without the “Don’t taser me Bro” repeated numerous times, I’d agree that tasering is probably better then getting into a fight or shooting a suspect.


  • 2007 AAR League

    he’s not shutting up. “dont taser me bro”  was his last ditch attempt to make himself look the vitctim.  dont buy it.

    and he says that about 1 second after thrashing about and getting thrown to the ground.  the taser was coming anyways.  the guy screamed like a little girl.  it was great.


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    @balungaloaf:

    he’s not shutting up. “dont taser me bro”  was his last ditch attempt to make himself look the vitctim.  dont buy it.

    and he says that about 1 second after thrashing about and getting thrown to the ground.  the taser was coming anyways.  the guy screamed like a little girl.  it was great.

    Think about that for a moment.  He’s in a public forum and has been recognized by the host/speaker of the forum.  You complain that he is not “shutting up.”

    At the risk of slipping into political, don’t you think he should have the right to speak?  After all, he was just asking Mr. Kerry if he and President Bush both met with the same fraternal order while they were in their respective college attendances.  That seems to have been the straw that broke the camel’s back resulting in the student reporter / protester being man handled by the police and tasered, even after he had shown signs of surrender.

    And yes, the first sign of surrender is all it should take for the police to back down their level of force.  They can always re-elevate later if the situation warrants.  I don’t think this specific case warranted it.  The man made his mark, he said what he wanted to say, the police just made the entire thing look like Mr. Kerry couldn’t handle a question and so the man asking it was arrested instead of getting an answer.  That, more then anything, probably said a lot more then the victim intended to say, probably.



  • Again i vote on the side of order and the greater good.  These cops (tend) to not make these decisions lightly.  Daily - hourly - i have to make difficult decisions and the stress level can be quite daunting - i can hardly believe that these cops did little more than flip a mental coin.  I think that in the future people may need to realize that they have very simple choices to make:  Thwart those here to serve society and protect people like me and get tasered, or make one’s point and get out of the way, and make your point in other ways.


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    Let’s put it in perspective:

    If it was a US Soldier tasering an Iraqi, you’d all be up in arms.  But because it was a college kid being tasered by the police, it’s suddenly okay?

    I could see if he was being abusive, but from the sound of his voice, he sounds more like he’s pleading for mercy.



  • @Jennifer:

    Let’s put it in perspective:

    If it was a US Soldier tasering an Iraqi, you’d all be up in arms.  But because it was a college kid being tasered by the police, it’s suddenly okay?

    I could see if he was being abusive, but from the sound of his voice, he sounds more like he’s pleading for mercy.

    i can see this whole topic being tasered given your blatant foray into PD, but yeah,
    i don’t think that US soldiers should ever have been sent off into Iraq, nor do i think that some college brat should be allowed to cause this kind of a disturbance.



  • This thread has gone from marginal to overtly Political.

    This is the only warning for PD discussion in this thread.



  • I think it’s pitiful a half dozen cops couldn’t take down 1 college student.  Time to lay off the doughnuts, piggy.


  • 2019 Moderator

    I watched the video, it was blatently obvious that this guy was trying to get attention.  He was distubing the peace and the reason there were muliple cops was they were trying to be gentile.  It’s shame when idiots feel they need to put other people in a bad situation begause they want attention.  What that little punk needed was a good 15 years of a$$ kicking by a dad that gave a shit how his kid was going to grow up.  There is realy nothing political about this…



  • @dezrtfish:

    I watched the video, it was blatently obvious that this guy was trying to get attention.  He was distubing the peace and the reason there were muliple cops was they were trying to be gentile.  It’s shame when idiots feel they need to put other people in a bad situation begause they want attention.   What that little punk needed was a good 15 years of a$$ kicking by a dad that gave a sh*t how his kid was going to grow up.  There is realy nothing political about this…

    You dont know what is inside the mind of the individual.

    This guy obviously was after attention. But he could have been hiding a weapon, or been insane enough to bum rush the stage and make a leap at Kerry when he was cut off.

    The point being that the cops cant just assume you are only seeking attention. Once you resist them, multiple times no less, the cops have to protect themseves, and the crowd, from potential harm.



  • @dezrtfish:

    I watched the video, it was blatently obvious that this guy was trying to get attention.  He was distubing the peace and the reason there were muliple cops was they were trying to be gentile.  It’s shame when idiots feel they need to put other people in a bad situation begause they want attention.   What that little punk needed was a good 15 years of a$$ kicking by a dad that gave a sh*t how his kid was going to grow up.  There is realy nothing political about this…

    The thread title is “Tasering in America – right or wrong??”.  That’s REALLY a PD thread title.

    If it were “Lolz @ Barbequed Hooligan”, now . . .


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    @squirecam:

    @dezrtfish:

    I watched the video, it was blatently obvious that this guy was trying to get attention.  He was distubing the peace and the reason there were muliple cops was they were trying to be gentile.  It’s shame when idiots feel they need to put other people in a bad situation begause they want attention.  What that little punk needed was a good 15 years of a$$ kicking by a dad that gave a sh*t how his kid was going to grow up.  There is realy nothing political about this…

    You dont know what is inside the mind of the individual.

    This guy obviously was after attention. But he could have been hiding a weapon, or been insane enough to bum rush the stage and make a leap at Kerry when he was cut off.

    The point being that the cops cant just assume you are only seeking attention. Once you resist them, multiple times no less, the cops have to protect themseves, and the crowd, from potential harm.

    I could be making bombs in my garage.  I’m not.  But I could be!  Should the police come taser me in my home?  Especially if I let them in, after getting a warrant?

    The guy was OBVIOUSLY not resisting.  He begged the officers not to taser him.  He didn’t threaten them if they tasered him.


  • 2007 AAR League

    I think tasering CAN be legitimate. Haven’t and don’t care to see the video in this case. I think tasering can also be an abuse of power. Peaceful protesters should not be tasered. Rioters should. Actually, I think a sleep spell would do the best job.



  • For once I again with Jenn on something…


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    I was thinking tasering might be more appropriate for bringing down armed assailants then protesters.  Don’t the protesters have the Right to Assemble, the Right to Speak and the Right to Petition like everyone else?



  • @Jennifer:

    I was thinking tasering might be more appropriate for bringing down armed assailants then protesters.  Don’t the protesters have the Right to Assemble, the Right to Speak and the Right to Petition like everyone else?

    Yes, they do.

    But can you assemble on MY lawn?? No. I own it. If I want you off of it, you must leave.

    The university hall (room, gym, whatever) was private property. The dean/administrator/guy in charge cut the mike off and requested this guy leave. You cant force your right to speak on the property of others. He could have stayed on a public sidewalk, and continued his speaking rights there.


  • 2019 Moderator

    Jen, have you seen the video yet?  He is whining “don’t taze me”, but he is also absolutely not complying with what he is being told to do.  Like I said he was trying to get attention.


  • 2018 2017 2016 '11 Moderator

    Yes, but Squire, that was HIS campus.  He was a student there (part of the school paper, I believe.) So he had more right to be there then the police or the speaker, if you consider he is paying fees to be there.  It’s private property alright, it’s his private property just like it is every student’s private property, in a way.

    And if he was whining not to be “tazed” then he was in essence surrendering.  His exact words were “Don’t taser me Bro” it was a declaritive statement told with the inflection that conveys that he was willing to be arrested.  It was not in a demeaning or inflaming type of voice.



  • @Jennifer:

    Yes, but Squire, that was HIS campus.  He was a student there (part of the school paper, I believe.) So he had more right to be there then the police or the speaker, if you consider he is paying fees to be there.  It’s private property alright, it’s his private property just like it is every student’s private property, in a way.

    when one pays their tuition, there is an understanding - tacit or overt - to behave oneself and to provide a modicum of courtesy.  He if he just followed a student the whole year while yelling at them - he would be required to stop.  I’m not sure why his right to protest ad nauseum exceeded that of the right of the speaker to be treated courtiously.

    And if he was whining not to be “tazed” then he was in essence surrendering.  His exact words were “Don’t taser me Bro” it was a declaritive statement told with the inflection that conveys that he was willing to be arrested.  It was not in a demeaning or inflaming type of voice.

    if someone yells “don’t hit me Bro” while hitting me, i’m not going to take him too seriously.  This guy’s actions begged the cops to take his words with very little seriousness.  I’m w/ DF on this one - his parents deserve a tasering too.


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