Communsim is not good



  • The best example of Communism that i can think of is in the Kibbutz in Israel. It was democratic and it worked very well, Some leasted longer than the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.



  • Therefore, the first Communism will be the US itself.

    Impossible, america is too individualistic and too capitalistic. When USA will not anymore be the first power, then maybe some new communist system will arise.



  • Emu, I agree with you entirely. The kibbutz is a great example. Its the only working communist system in the world. Israel is all bad!

    Guest (Fin), I’m talking future.



  • @Yanny:

    Emu, I agree with you entirely. The kibbutz is a great example. Its the only working communist system in the world. Israel is all bad!

    Guest (Fin), I’m talking future.

    I livedo n a kibbutz for a while and thought it was a great experience. It was something very new that can be learned from in Capitalistic societies. Melding Communism and Capitalism could make a system that could incorporate teh good elements of both. As it stands, both Capitalism and Communism in my opinion aren’t the greatest systems.



  • true communism – the theory stated by Karl Marx – sounds like a wonderful idea to me but this is the real world. that is why the capatialist system is more effiecnt.



  • @yourbuttocks:

    In the Soviet Union, did the class system disapear? NO! It became much more Ironclad than in Capitalist countries.

    This is your counter argument to my post? How utterly disappointing.

    @yanny:

    A communism must be democratic to work.

    As said by myself before, there is no other system inherently democratic as communism.

    @eyeless:

    true communism – the theory stated by Karl Marx – sounds like a wonderful idea to me but this is the real world. that is why the capatialist system is more effiecnt.

    The problem is that you are studying too much of the theories under Marx and Engles. There is just as much to gain from reading from the theories of the new era of influential communist. However brilliant The Manifesto may be, it is similarly outdated for the 21st century (read the coming of the information war) and should only be used as a template for the new communist movement.

    @yanny:

    Due to the post WWII and present day envirment, it is currently impossible for a democratic communism to exist. The United States will involve itself in everything, and will always be sure to have a capitalism put in place. Therefore, the first Communism will be the US itself.

    This is true. Look at the economic peril South America is currently in from adopting US capitalist modes. South America is on the verge of initializing groundbreaking, leftist reforms, though the United States Government gone through great pains to try and prevent that from happening.

    @guest:

    Impossible, america is too individualistic and too capitalistic

    I would not count out the Americans. If anything, a smoothly operating communist government would be more successful in America, Europe, or Japan due to their vast, modernized infostructure.

    @yanny:

    Emu, I agree with you entirely. The kibbutz is a great example. Its the only working communist system in the world. Israel is all bad!

    I wouldn’t say the only “communist” system in the world, but I do respect the Kibbutz system as a model for future communes.


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