A&A Jargon - Colloquialisms

A friend of mine and I are arguing over the interpretation of the attack/defend rules of basic combat. In the instructions it says to roll for all units with the same attack or defend value at the same time. Does this mean if I have 10 infantry units I roll one die for all ten or do I roll for each unit individually (10 Die)?

My thought was that if you roll one die for multiple units with low attack value (infantry), it keeps their offensive value low (making battle more realistic), but rewards large numbers of infantry units by awarding many hits on a successful attack/defend roll.
It seems a bit weird that a few infantry troops could very easily take out an equal number of  tanks.

Lemme know your thoughts. Official rules first, but favorite house rules welcome.

Hey lord BTW the 8/8 and 8/6 means it rolls a secondary attack. German Jet fighters have this because they were able to use their speed to attack a fighter two times in the time it would take that prop plane to get a good look at a Me-262. They were able to even ignore fighters and strike at bombers and then get a pass at the fighters again.

Battleships get a secondary attack that is not preemtive. The first (highter number) is a preemtive attack.

The carriers take 2 hits

german Type XX1 is preemtive even against destroyers and cruisers

Katyuskas are preemtive

self propelled artillery hits go against tanks first

armor hits go against artillery or armor

infantry must go on infantry first

Artillery attack preemtively in the first round only

Tanks +1 attack with matching plane 1/1

Infantry +1 attack with matching artillery 1/1

Artillery +1 movement with matching armor 1/1

many other rules make the numbers look more understandable. Many ask why does a battleship etc. attack twice… but if you look at the other rules as a whole the values are perfect.

@ShadowHAwk:

Can i agree with the fact that in the current rules the carrier does NOT have to move if the fighter was destroyed, but at the same time not agree with the rules itself ?

Because it is not logical that the carrier does not start its move to meet up with the figher at the same time since it it start after the figher completed its move in a normal situation it would not be there on time to catch the aircraft.

Basicaly the time it takes for the carrier to get there is the same as the time it takes for the fighter to get there and since the carrier needs to be there at the same time in order for the pilot to remain dry it logical should start sailing in the general direction of the pickup point.

Since the Fighter in question could be “flying” from Gibraltar to the Caucus in one turn, I don’t think the model of aircraft taking off and landing as part of a days flight operations on a Carrier quite applies.  Especially since Naval aircraft are built very differently from land based aircraft yet the game makes no difference between the two.

@SSG:

No, Schlag, to the best of my knowledge noone has come out with the revised A&A format for computers or game systems.  If someone does, I will happily stand in line to buy one. :-D

Too bad that recent PC version sucked so completely…

Thanks guys.

Hi,

I’ve been on the hunt for some additional/alternative miniatures for using with A&AR.

So far I’ve found Infantry miniatures from Airfix (www.airfix.com) for US, UK, Germany and Russia.

In regard to Tanks, Fighters, Artillery and Bombers, I’ve had no luck at the scale in A&AR, and the same goes for naval units.

Anybody else have any leads I might follow up?

EDIT: I’ve come to the conclusion that tanks, planes and artillery are in the approx 1:285 scale, while infantry are approx 1:72 scale.
I’ve found that the company called Micro Armour produces (produced more like it) tanks and such.
Micro Armour miniatures can be found here: http://www.ghqmodels.com/store/ghq-military-models.html
Although, it seems they’re an expensive alternative, the models would bring even greater realism/diversity to the gamingboard.

Revised edition is much better. Except for neutral countries…we should be able to invade them as the axis.