Subs

Destroyers delay the removal of sub casualties, allowing them to fire back in their normal step even if they are hit by a sub.  However, both attacking and defending subs always fire in the Opening Fire step, so a defending sub will return fire even if it is hit, regardless of the presence of destroyers.  This is because fire within a step is simultaneous.  In effect, the presence of a destroyer only affects the ability of surface vessels to return fire when hit by subs.

thanks the FAQ is a big help

Yes.

Thanks all for the clarity.

(Switch is right, you need a destroyer present in other A&A games).

Subs always shoot in opening fire and unless there is a DD for your side anything that would “sink” from the hits scored by the subs doesn’t get to shoot back. 2 subs getting two hits could sink the BB before it could fire back. You always need two hits to sink a BB no matter when they are applied.

Also note there is opening fire in every round of combat. Every round your subs have a shot at sinking something that won’t get to shoot back (unless an enemy DD is present.)

Yes.

http://dicey.net/revised/viewtopic.php?t=73

About half way down, the first 2 or 3 paragraphs on non-combat movement are explicit.

Subs always can only hit naval units. It doesn’t actually make a difference in which step they fire when an enemy destroyer is present, as long as you can keep track. I prefer to roll black die for subs, white die for fighters, and in this manner get 2 types of units rolled hopefully in one toss of the die.

I hate it, theres too many rules hurting the attacker, the attacker has the initiative, and theoretically wins.