Assistance with the bidding rules

@bakerbei A fighter in Scotland with a sub in 110 or 111 will save half the English fleet. An infantry in Yunnan with an extra fighter in Russia will hold Yunnan on J1 making life tougher for Japan; assuming you fly all your Russian planes to Yunnan. The sub in the Med at 98 will make Taranto easier if you are going with that tactic vs Gibastian.

BTW you are way under Bid as the Allies. The absolute minimum Allied bid should be 30. Most bids are 45-55.

Has there ever been a push to re-open the Alpha process and create a new, more balanced “standard” set-up? It’s hard not to view requiring a bid of ~50 for the same side consistently as a significant failure in game balance.

I realize that bids are more necessarily for skilled players than unskilled, but it still seems odd that it’s never been formalized. Do skilled players (of which I am not) actually enjoy the bidding process as part of the game?

@AndrewAAGamer said in Assistance with the bidding rules:

@bakerbei A fighter in Scotland with a sub in 110 or 111 will save half the English fleet. An infantry in Yunnan with an extra fighter in Russia will hold Yunnan on J1 making life tougher for Japan; assuming you fly all your Russian planes to Yunnan. The sub in the Med at 98 will make Taranto easier if you are going with that tactic vs Gibastian.

BTW you are way under Bid as the Allies. The absolute minimum Allied bid should be 30. Most bids are 45-55.

You can see bids as a handicap thing to even out skill difference.
If there is a bigger skill disparity the bids need to be bigger, if the other guy is bad with axis then a lower bid can work.

A DD in the channel is a bad idea, sure the first strike thing is annoying but it also allows germany to not send the BB and just use 2 subs as casualties for your scramble hits if you scramble.

@bakerbei

You dont really need the sub, the figher in schotland makes things interesting for germany.
Adding a DD off gibraltar is nice keeps that cruiser alive. Or at least forces germany to send 2 or more subs and even then its pretty risky battle for germany.

You can also put a sub off scotland. Combined with a plane it could make things interesting. Especially since germany has to buy a carrier to attack like you mentioned.

With just 2 subs and 7 air the UK can scramble 3 air.
Their air can only hit your air. With the BB or a DD in 110 the UK air can hit the BB or the subs making scramble a lot worst.

The first strike doesnt to anything in 110 anyway, the first hit will be on the BB which can hit back. Only if they make 2 hits does it make a difference, would you put a bid in a place where 1/9 times it makes a small difference?

Putting it in SZ91 will make a much bigger difference, even putting it with the fleet off schotland would be better.

Interesting things:
Add a art in alexandria and a mech or tank in egypt and destroy tobruk at the same time as destroying the italian fleet.

Put a transport off south afrika so you can take iraq round 1, or if doing taranto put the troops from malta on greece ( your planes from the carrier can land ) and still do your things around east afrika.

If your opponent allows, add an AA gun to china, japan has to attack with planes so you can get 3 shots. Its a gambit though.

@bakerbei said in Assistance with the bidding rules:

In your opinion though, if you had an 18 ipc bid, where would you place it and why?

With only $18 I would put a fighter in Scotland and an SS in 110. Give the remaining $2 to UK Europe.

The reason I would do this is it saves one of the two main UK fleets. Germany does not have enough firepower to safely hit 110 and 111 with the 2 extra defending units. Then the SS in 110 will survive and it can join the UK Med fleet for Gibastion then start convoy disruption against Italy. The extra $2 allows the UK to build a factory for Egypt, an airbase for Gibraltar and an infantry for London.

This makes UK safe from Sealion and starts them down the road to be able to have a big enough fleet, combined with the US, to make landings on the Continent ASAP,

@AndrewAAGamer said in Assistance with the bidding rules:

@bakerbei said in Assistance with the bidding rules:

In your opinion though, if you had an 18 ipc bid, where would you place it and why?

With only $18 I would put a fighter in Scotland and an SS in 110. Give the remaining $2 to UK Europe.

The reason I would do this is it saves one of the two main UK fleets. Germany does not have enough firepower to safely hit 110 and 111 with the 2 extra defending units. Then the SS in 110 will survive and it can join the UK Med fleet for Gibastion then start convoy disruption against Italy. The extra $2 allows the UK to build a factory for Egypt, an airbase for Gibraltar and an infantry for London.

This makes UK safe from Sealion and starts them down the road to be able to have a big enough fleet, combined with the US, to make landings on the Continent ASAP,

Im puzzled by the sub in 110, would it not be better to put a DD in 111 instead.
110 if germany hits 2 times with subs yea it gives you a cruiser shot.
Unless you intend to take 1 hit on the sub first as the sub cannot hit air and the 2 cruisers + BB will hit subs first.

@bakerbei said in Assistance with the bidding rules:

@AndrewAAGamer Would Germany still not be able to take both SZ 110 and 111? I believe that Germany has 4 subs, 4 fighters, 4 tactical bombers, 2 strategic bombers and 1 battleship to bring to bear on the two sea zones.

If it’s split evenly, with the battleship going to the English Channel, Germany has odds on both, even with a Scottish Fighter bid and scrambling the now 5 fighters.

Are my calculations off or is it not a given that the Scottish Fighter saves a fleet?

No they will still win both combats. But it will cost them more units.
Gemany cannot afford to lose most of its planes there, and a bad roll of the dice can really screw up german plans.