Very True Simon, Sea Lion even if successful increases allied chances of victory, so unles its 90%+ as Germany, I’m not doing it.
Let's talk the Taranto raid.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato Worth remembering that with the right bid you can change the odds further (and perhaps also avoid bringing the carrier in). And as Andrew notes, the surviving units should take out some German air. And the Italians not only lose most of their fleet, but get convoyed in round 1. That being said, in my allied play I tend to prefer Gibastion.
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Thank you for the responses! I understand now.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato hey,
I´ve been trying to find other ways of saving egypt but it always comes down to a show off (a taranto 2.0). I´m making a video of a possible alternative but the problem is the axis (italy) will have options with their fleet so it´s difficult to foresee solutions for all these options . -
Thank you! I look foward to it! Weren’t you the one who had the idea of sending the carrier to sea zone 81 and having the landing the aircraft from India land there? I think I’ll try it sometime.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato correct. But it costs a lot in blockers so in my new plan i have a solution for this.
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Great!
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You bring the carrier the axis has 2 options.
Scramble, sure you take 1 carrier and 2 fighters as losses.
They still lose the fleet and 3 extra fighters.Dont scramble and basicaly give up the fleet for minimal losses on the allied side.
Take your pick really, it hardly mathers to the allies Italy is crippled, its 1 less front to bother with and basically you turn the game into a race to moscow for the axis. They either win the race and the game or have a few 2 many bad rolls and they lose the game.
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I get ecstatic when my opponent doesn’t do Taranato.
No idea what my win rate is when there is no Taranato, but I am sure it is higher than when I do get Taranto’d. -
@Galendae said in Let's talk the Taranto raid.:
I get ecstatic when my opponent doesn’t do Taranato.
No idea what my win rate is when there is no Taranato, but I am sure it is higher than when I do get Taranto’d.Well i guess it doesnt happen that often because taranto is just really good and easy opener. Not doing it is a lot more tricky to do as allies.
If for some reason that BB in 110 survives and your cruiser in the atlantic survives its a good tactic though. Combining everything + airbase in the med removes any ideas italy might have for any NO they might want to think about.
And any ideas of a sea-lion for germany are also scrapped. -
@shadowhawk it does take either good dice rolls, an Allied bid, and/or meticulous execution to pull of the alternatives to Taranto. Otherwise you find that you lose Egypt, Gibraltar, or London early in the game and it is almost impossible to recover.
I have to spend a long time battlecalcing every scenario if I decide to place my fleet next to Gibraltar. That certainly is the best option if you can avoid mistakes, but I wouldn’t do that in a face to face game.
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in Let's talk the Taranto raid.:
@shadowhawk it does take either good dice rolls, an Allied bid, and/or meticulous execution to pull of the alternatives to Taranto. Otherwise you find that you lose Egypt, Gibraltar, or London early in the game and it is almost impossible to recover.
I have to spend a long time battlecalcing every scenario if I decide to place my fleet next to Gibraltar. That certainly is the best option if you can avoid mistakes, but I wouldn’t do that in a face to face game.
Yea i agree there, taranto is the easier option to pull off.
But in the case or rare dice in 110, or just a weak attack there, sometimes you can pull it off.
Having a BB + 2 cruisers + destroyer + carrier + 3 fighters available will deter any attack on it from italy or germany and that fleet can easy defend sea lion or punish the italians for moving anywhere but stay put.But just doing taranto is the easier and safer bet.
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