SbY (Ax) vs CdS (Al) Europe 1940 2nd


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to French Central Africa
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                  British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                  British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0,33
    Germans regular : -0,83
    British regular : 1,50
    

    WW2SBYAXvsCdSALLIESUK1.tsvg


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Is there something wrong?


  • @cds

    No, I’m just thinking and figuring out how to respond. Not the best player of the European Axis, nor do I have the most fun (I’ve always preferred the Pacific side).


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Okay, no worries. I dont look at winning or losing the game, but instead at the experience I get out of it. I already count that as a win.
    Perhaps after the game we share our thoughts about the game, learn from each other.


  • @cds

    Agreed.


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato @cds
    Guys, FYI I have changed the topic of your Game thread to match the standards.


  • @Panther

    Thanks!


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Hope you made some progress yet with figuring it out, like I said its all about the experience, next time you’ll know what can be improved. So lets play :)


  • @cds

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Albania
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Morocco
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Morocco, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco
                Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia
                Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Albania: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Romania: 1 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
            1 armour moved from Albania to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            2 aaGuns moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -1.33
    Italians regular : 1.17
    British regular : 0.67
    

  • @cds

    Italy Turn 1 Complete Global 1940.tsvg

    Sorry it took a bit of time.


  • @cds

    By the way I did come up with an alternate set of plays for Italy’s turn 1 in this exact situation (in my head). Would you like me to play those out as well and show it to you? Thank you!


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    WW2SBYAXvsCdSALLIESFRA1.tsvg


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato said in SbY (Ax) vs CdS (Al) Europe 1940 2nd:

    @cds

    By the way I did come up with an alternate set of plays for Italy’s turn 1 in this exact situation (in my head). Would you like me to play those out as well and show it to you? Thank you!

    Sure, lets see it. Guess you can have multiple scenarios with Italy in the first round :) Especially when your fleet survived at Taranto.



  • @cds

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Morocco
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 cruisers in Morocco, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco
                French win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Algeria
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship in Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria
                Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Battle in Alexandria
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Southern France
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 artilleries in Southern France, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Southern France, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Southern France
                Italians win, taking Southern France from French with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia
                Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
            Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 2.67
    Italians regular : -2.83
    British regular : -0.67
    

    Italian Turn 1 Complete Global 1940 Alternate.tsvg

    The goal was for Italy to get that North Africa bonus. Didn’t… go so well.


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    Yeah, depending on shore bombardement with BB or Cru is always tricky. Landing party does need to have strength on its own. In this case I wouldnt have recommended this alternate attack, because now I can still move into med with UK fleet and take out Italian navy.


  • @SuperbattleshipYamato

    You did see the France turn right?


  • @cds

    Yes.


  • @cds

    Yeah, I always intended for you to go with the first one. Just wanted to demontstrate what was possible.

    Maybe if I loaded one of those artilery from Northern Italy and used aircraft to make up the difference…


  • @cds

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Politics - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Greece, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            3 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from France to Northern Italy
            3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from France to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Western Germany
            5 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            2 bombers moved from Greece to Western Germany
            5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            3 aaGuns moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Germany
            1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Western Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0.67
    Neutral_Allies regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

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