• Sorry Jen.  But once you move into combat, you have to conduct at least one round of combat before you can retreat.

    In the order of combat, retreat is later in the sequence, not first.  Thus you have to complete those portions of the combat sequence that precede retreat before you can retreat (opening fire, remove opening fire casualties, attacker rolls, defender rolls, remove casualties THEN press attack or retreat)

    The only exception (of course) are land units for an amphib if they all die in the naval battle, but that is only because they never actually were able to complete their move into Combat.  But those advanced air units that were sent in… those have to endure a full round of combat before they can fly away.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    That’s a dumb rule.  You fix HBs so they arn’t game altering anymore, and can’t fix that one?  Sheesh!

    (You as in the world, not you specifically.)


  • It is a matter of timing…

    The air units are already on target as the naval battle is engaging.  They have already entered enemy air space.  So, if the amphib assault force is destroyed, the AF have to get out.  But the defender is going to get a swipe at you along the way.  At least you get to roll your attacks, instead of just taking a parting shot on your retreat.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I might see AA guns being in there, or CAP if you play with it, but I really don’t see what an infantryman in Paris is going to do about a fighter heading towards Normandy, especially if he turns around 1 mile in the air and flies home instead of diving to attack.

    But that’s just me.

    As I said in another threat, just because the rules seem idiotic, unfair and/or unjust doesn’t mean they arn’t the rules.


  • There is an enhanced realism rule set being worked on as we speak.

    But for the game, we work with the corrected rules that we have…

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ncscswitch:

    There is an enhanced realism rule set being worked on as we speak.

    But for the game, we work with the corrected rules that we have…

    Which is great and all, but I fear that it won’t be universally accepted like LHTR.

    Any work getting it accepted and standard operating proceedures for AAMC, Flames, DAAK and here?


  • Let them finish and do the playtesting first! LOL

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ncscswitch:

    Let them finish and do the playtesting first! LOL

    Why would I wanna be reasonable about that???  :P :lol: 8-)


  • I should also mention that the enhanced realism rules are such a dramatic overhaul, that they likely will NOT replace LHTR.  It is a new game variant rather than a replacement rule set.


  • Yeah. The Soviets are worthless with them.

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