• I just did a Pearl variant that worked out ratehr nicely…

    Pearl with air only, plus my DST (lost my SUB in UK1).

    I took out the Pearl fleet, lost the DST, and landed my FIGs from the attack on an AC I have moved to Wake.

    That left my AC out of range of much of the air power normally available for a Pearl counter (Western FIG and Eastern BOM were out of range).  That would ahve left the US attacking a loaded AC with 1 BB, 1 TRN, 1 FIG.  (almost 50% US would be wiped out in that attack).

    And it kept a BB off Japan to cover my TRNs, and I still have an AC and BB off Kwang.

    In short, I got Pearl and almost the entire British navy (they have 1 TRN in the Indian Ocean, and 1 SUB in the Pacific) for a cost of only 1 SUB and 1 DST.

  • 2007 AAR League

    i agree switch i usally use just air power+ 1 sub or dd, but this game i went a little thin, i also attacked the uk fleet in sz 34, so pearl cost me 1 sub+ 2 fig. not to bad.  but my point is withoput a kill japan first plan not attacking pearl isin’t that bad.  it’s hard for me not to go after japan if i’m left with the pearl fleet. the question is, is it better for the axis to draw USA in the pacific, and japan battle them thier ? can germany hold off UK & russ? i believe germany can hold on, but cannot take moscow, and to win you have to take a capitol.


  • You need the DST at Pearl to prevent the SUB from submerging.  If you let the SUB live, the US has some very tempting options…


  • @ncscswitch:

    You need the DST at Pearl to prevent the SUB from submerging.  If you let the SUB live, the US has some very tempting options…

    What would you use the sub for, if it was the only piece surviving the Pearl attack?


  • A sneak shot and fodder for one hell of a US counter in the Pacific… 2 FIGs, 1 BOM, 1 BB, 1 TRN, 1 SUB, 1 DST.

  • 2007 AAR League

    @ncscswitch:

    A sneak shot and fodder for one hell of a US counter in the Pacific… 2 FIGs, 1 BOM, 1 BB, 1 TRN, 1 SUB, 1 DST.

    I’m pretty sure the DST can’t reach Pearl on a US1 Counterattack which would probably be your only chance.


  • You are correct, it cannot reach Pearl on US1.

    But the point is that if the SUB survives, then the US has a vaible 4 ship fleet in the Pacific… 5 if they add an AC, 7 if they add the Hawaii and Western FIGs.

    Now Japan has some serious issues to deal with.

    But if Pearl ends up 100% dead, including the SUB… then the US is looking at MASSIVE cash to the Pacific in order to be a threat to Japan, instead of just 16 or 24 IPC in order to be a serious threat.

  • 2007 AAR League

    So you think that if Japan only gets 2 hits on the first round you would submerge the sub instead of leaving the FIG alive?


  • Yep.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Actually, I’m not so much worried about the sub living through pearl as I am the thought of loosing my precious fighters to defender shots.  That’s why I bring the Sub/Destroyer…I don’t actually count on them for the battle as much as I count on them to soak up 100% of return fire.

    It also means I don’t need my capital ships which keeps them safe from American retalliation.

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