@ncscswitch:
CC,
I tend not to deal with this issue in purely theoretical terms. When I see discussions like this, when I see the blind faith, the proselytizing, the attempts to intertwine religion and government… I see those on a real world level.
you have to “forgive” the blind faith and what you refer to as proselytizing. For many Christians, Christianity is well beyond blind faith, but is as real as the love you feel for your partner (assuming you love your partner, of course). As for the proselytizing you will have to forgive that to a certain extent. Afterall - it is in The Book. Now i will grant you - there is a difference between informing people of important Truths, and being a dick about it. You may have a different view as to where this line is drawn, but i think as one has to live with certain things in a society, you are going to have to find a ground in which you can tolerate these injustices of life, or you are going to be railling against human behaviour in all of its forms until you die, probably of a broken hip when you fall in your clonazepam-induced-fog required by the inevitable anxiety you are developing by these mercilous Christians’.
I see the Christian Coalition and othes of their ilk trying to get not prayer, but explicitly and exclisvuely Christian Prayer in schools.
there is going to be a pushing and pulling. A union will request bizaare things of an employer just to find a compromise that they were actually seeking. I read too much about Christian children being prohibited from praying in cafeterias in public schools. As long as this is a problem, i can understand the pendulum being swung by a further margin.
I see the entire ID/Creationism issue as a way of getting the Book of Geneis being taught as FACT in schools.
cool.
I went to Christian schools for most of my life, and this wasn’t being taught this way. Still, i think that it is reasonable to teach this as a common philosophy, if not as a scientific fact (presumably you have seen my few posts on the evolution/creation debate).
I see a real world push to put conservative fundamentalist Christians in public office in order to legislate THEIR views, and use the enforcement power of the Imperial Federal Government to mandate compliance under threat of fine or imprisonment.
it depends on what those views are. Whether Christian or not, i have a problem with those who seek to hand more power to gun-wielders, abortionists, executors, war-mongers, etc. At the same time, the society of Jesus as per the Sermon on the Mount and the Acts’ church was pretty cool, and i wouldn’t have a problem with this philosophy in a government.
Just look at some of the “theoreticals” that have been posted here, and what many of these so-called Christians want to do to their fellow Americans simply because they do not follow their particular religious outlook. Just this morning I had to delete a post that violated this forum’s policies that advocated death for a variety of non-Christian groups.
Now you have seen my unabashed defence of people who need defending - the unborn, Muslims, death row prisoners (i.e. w.r.t. the death penalty), so you know that i’m pretty anti-killing. Still, just because someone claims to both be a Christian and death to homosexuals - how different is that from me proclaiming to be a switch-follower and oh-yeah - death to all law-enforcement types? Both are equally ridiculous stances - try and separate the two.
Do we REALLY want to allow that type of behavior and outlook on life to be placed in control of our government? To give those people the means to actually carry out their plans for “purification” of America as a Christian nation?
I certainly do not…
again - baby and bathwater. You generalize too easily here.