AndrewAAGamer (Allies+60) vs Simon33 (X) OOB Game II

$60 Bid:
UK Fighter Scotland
UK Subs - 111, 110, 106, 91
ANZAC Sub 62
UK Aircraft Carrier 98
Chinese Infantry Yunnan
$1 IPC to Russia

hf

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition with Combat Move First

Game History

Round: 1

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia

Savegame

@AndrewAAGamer scrambles and submerge 106?

Oh also submerge 110. I would assume not but you never know.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition with Combat Move First

Game History

Round: 1

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
        3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Yugoslavia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 10/20 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                1 aaGun owned by the French, 1 armour owned by the French, 6 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 3/16 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France
                1 fighter owned by the French and 1 armour owned by the British lost in France
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 submarines
            British defend with 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
            Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine; French defend with 1 cruiser
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the French, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 2 submarines
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
                4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
            1 fighter owned by the Germans and 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans retreated
            2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
            Neutral_Allies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
        2 bombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany
        3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
        2 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
        2 infantry moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        1 destroyer placed in 113 Sea Zone
        4 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.50
Neutral_Allies regular : -0.67
Germans regular : 1.33
British regular : 1.00

Savegame

Now that dice have been rolled I have some feedback.

Why submerge in the first round in both 106 and 110? Unless I roll really well (as it happens I did in 110 but only with planes), all submerging does is deny you a defending shot. Even in the case of 110 this game, a defending sub hit would have meant I needed to lose another plane. Only a 1 in 6 chance of course.

Why put an AC in 98 when for the same price you can put a sub and a ftr on Malta? A tac or a bomber might be even better but costs 1 or 2 more IPCs respectively. This bid allows you to attack SZ97 UK1 without needing to bring in the CV. There is a risk that the Italians don’t hit and you need to bring in the CV to catch the 1 ftr from London but it is worth taking. Some crazy Axis players may even scramble to such an attack and reduce that risk further.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition with Combat Move First

Game History

Round: 1

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from French
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangtung
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 fighter moved from Okinawa to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        Battle in Philippines
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Philippines, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Philippines, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Philippines, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines
                1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
            Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 5 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 5 infantry
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Hunan
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
        2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 aaGun, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan
        1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
        2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
        Japanese collect 37 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 4.00
Americans regular : 1.50
Japanese regular : 0.50
UK_Pacific regular : -0.67

Savegame

I am not normally one to complain about dice, but that was ridiculous! 3 planes down J1 and I didn’t do anything weird.

@andrewaagamer said in AndrewAAGamer (Allies+60) vs Simon33 (X) OOB Game II:

Because I am not trying to increase the ATTACK on SZ97. I am trying to increase the DEFENSE of the UK fleet in SZ97.

Interesting. I see what you are thinking here. It may have been a 30% attack but if I didn’t do it the remaining Italian fleet was toast. I doubt I ran the calculator or I wouldn’t have had done the amphibious assault on Greece. Although if you tried to preserve the CV that would have reduced your odds massively and if you didn’t do that then the Luftwaffe could have cleaned up the survivors easily. I guess the French fleet could have reinforced but only 2 ships.

You know, I am going to say scramble here. Don’t want you to have too much doing convoy damage.

Got to fix up that combat first map to post after purchase.

Well there is no sub so I will dent BB, lose Cru, 2Ita ftrs.

Oh really? I don’t think I have ever actually lost the Philippines battle before.