NO scramble.
L22 playoff game Pejon_88 (X+6) vs. AoW (A) PTV
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Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 128 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Germans creates battle in territory 109 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 109 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 126 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in 109 Sea Zone British defend with 2 destroyers and 1 submarine Battle in 128 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Russians defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 128 Sea Zone Germans winBritish win with 2 destroyers and 1 submarine remaining, taking 128 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 7 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 7 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 2 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 23 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 bomber moved from 128 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 destroyer placed in 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Germany 3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0,67
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@artofwar1947 And thank you!
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@artofwar1947 So tiresome that the engine doesn’t seem to warn about to few landing spots during combat move… I have moved my planes as best I can to make space for all planes, but there seems to be none for the Malaya fig that’s left. What do you propose? Re-play the round, let it go down (which would’ve been an illegal move). Sorry!
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@pejon_88 *too few
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@pejon_88 said in L22 playoff game Pejon_88 (X+6) vs. AoW (A) PTV:
@artofwar1947 So tiresome that the engine doesn’t seem to warn about to few landing spots during combat move… I have moved my planes as best I can to make space for all planes, but there seems to be none for the Malaya fig that’s left. What do you propose? Re-play the round, let it go down (which would’ve been an illegal move). Sorry!
Though I never seen the program allow an illegal move, I suppose this is possible. (I have seen it choose an aircraft with more remaining spaces chosen as a loss over an aircraft with fewer remaining spaces. But that does not seem to apply here.)
An alternative is that moving a fighter from Kwangsi to Malaya was legal according to the logic of the program but that your NCM did not conform to this logic (i.e., the program figured that fighter that attacked Malaya from Kwangsi was supposed to land on the CV now in 132). It would take a deep analysis to figure out which is true or if there is another reason.I would rather not redo the whole CM and combat. The allies scored 3 hits on 10 rolls at 2–slightly better than the 2.67 hits expected: 2.67. I don’t trust Marti to be so kind in a redo.
As I see it, you have three options:
- Do the deep but time-consuming analysis and figure out if you can adjust your NCM to comply with program’s logic (if the analysis indicates this is the case).
- Redo the battle of Malaya only, leaving the otherwise stranded fighter out of fight (leaving it in Kwangsi).
- Leave the map as it is and ditch the stranded fighter.
I’d prefer Option 3 :), but sportsmanship dictates I could accept Option 1 or 2.
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I played through the NCM and got the message: Airunits cannot land in Malaya. You have 1 carrier on which planes can land.
So the program, either due to a fault in its logic or your NCM not conforming to its correct logic, clearly believes a carrier is available to land fighter in Malaya.
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@artofwar1947 I do believe there was an error "done2 by the engine since if you do NCMs with one air at the time, there is however you do it one too few landing spots on ACs/previously controlled territories. At least that’s what I get. I am very fine with redoing the Malaya battle here in the thread if you’re ok with that leaving out the Kwangsi fig.
Shall we go by that approach?
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Sure.
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@artofwar1947 Ok, so two inf + fig + tac vs. 2 inf and I’ll adjust per outcome.
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Two attacking inf, then fig, then tac and last two defending inf.
[dice 2d6]
[dice 1d6]
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2d6: 5, 2
1d6: 6
1d6: 5
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one inf lost for Japan. Continuing.
[dice 1d6]
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1d6: 6
1d6: 5
1d6: 2
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Allies win with one remaining inf.
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Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Siam to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 56 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 2 bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Dutch New Guinea 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to Szechwan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Malaya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Java 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Malaya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Borneo 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Dutch New Guinea 1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to Borneo Combat - Japanese Battle in 56 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in New Britain Battle in Sumatra Battle in Celebes Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese win, taking New Britain from ANZAC, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Dutch New Guinea Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Malaya Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 destroyer moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Marianas to 23 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 23 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Dutch New Guinea to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Siam 1 fighter moved from Malaya to Siam 1 carrier moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 56 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone EDIT: 1 fighter moved from Malaya to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Japan Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Malaya: 2 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Malaya from Japanese to UK_Pacific EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malaya: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
Think this was now done correctly. Please reach out if I did any mistakes.
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I agree with outcome of the Malaya battle.
I forgot about the carrier scramble to defend Shan State. Would like redo UK-P CM so that-
the Shan State is attacked by the inf from Malaya + 2 inf & art from Burma, and the fighter from E. India; and
Yunnan is attacked by 2 inf and art from Burma.
Do you wish to scramble fighter to defend Shan State?There used to be an autosave function, but I cannot find the autosave for UK CM or the end of the China3 turn to edit it. Will continue to look for these file, but if I cannot, will redo the combat on the forum.
Here is the unedited UK3 CM.
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@artofwar1947 That change is fine. In the Savegames folder there is an autosave folder you can look out for.
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In the past, it was obvious where the folder was. I had to do a hard search this morning, but I finally did found it.