L22/23 PtV 666 vs AetV (Axis +14)


  • @aequitas-et-veritas this is the second time I have lost Russia like this. Clearly I am not paying attention. and need to re-evaluate what I am doing.


  • From my experiance with PtV is that you as Russia also have to choose wich route you evade and pull back the frontline.
    With our two games right now i am learning a lot.
    The PtV games i have played before, i just got butchered.
    PtV is more time consuming then the G40 versions.


  • @aequitas-et-veritas said in L22/23 PtV 666 vs AetV (Axis +14):

    From my experiance with PtV is that you as Russia also have to choose wich route you evade and pull back the frontline.
    With our two games right now i am learning a lot.
    The PtV games i have played before, i just got butchered.
    PtV is more time consuming then the G40 versions.

    much more time consuming, but I love it due to it’s complexity. Lot’s of options. G40 is typically the same over and over


  • @aequitas-et-veritas and from what I remember your play has really improved. Good for you. I am in a bad position here again! auggh. I need to think this through otherwise I will lose 2 games to you this year!!!


  • @aequitas-et-veritas

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
                  Russians take Yaroslavl from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Russia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 3 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Russia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 : 1/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Russia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Russians win, taking Russia from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Tula
            2 aaGuns, 4 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Kursk to Tula
            4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Tula
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Urals to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.50
    Russians regular : -2.33
    

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  • Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 2 destroyers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Inner Mongolia
            1 armour moved from Jehol to Inner Mongolia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Inner Mongolia
            1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 18 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 55 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 18 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 18 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Inner Mongolia
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 5/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia
                Japanese win, taking Inner Mongolia from Chinese with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for French: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
            2 artilleries moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Shansi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Inner Mongolia to Chahar
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 artillery moved from Davao to Manilla
            2 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
            1 marine moved from Japan to Kyushu
            1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 18 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
            2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
            1 bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung
            2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 fighter placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0,67
    Americans regular : -0,33
    French regular : 0,67
    Japanese regular : 4,33
    

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    I posted the scramble file above an we can pick it up from there.


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    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            2 marines moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to New Guinea
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 55 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in New Guinea
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            2 marines moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
            2 submarines moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Algeria
            1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 carrier moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
            2 submarines moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 55 Sea Zone: 2 artilleries and 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 55 Sea Zone: 1 artillery and 2 transports
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Queensland: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Guerilla Chahar: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Chinese creates battle in territory Chahar
            Battle in Chahar
                Chinese attack with 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Kansu
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Tsinghai
            Chinese undo move 2.
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Eastern Sinkiang
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Kweichow: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 4 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 unit repaired.
            1 marine moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 101 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Cyprus
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Libya to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Alexandria
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Cyprus
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 marine
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship in Cyprus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Cyprus
                British win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Cyprus from Italians with 1 bomber and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Alexandria
                British attack with 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/9 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Alexandria, round 3 : 0/8 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Alexandria, round 4 : 2/8 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria
                British win, taking Alexandria from Italians with 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Iraq to Syria
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Russia
            1 fighter moved from 83 Sea Zone to Southern Caucasus
            1 armour moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Libya to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Cyprus to Syria
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers and 3 destroyers moved from 100 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 100 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt
            3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern India to Yunnan
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
            2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 aaGun and 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 5 infantry, 2 submarines and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 4 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Algeria
    
        Place Units - British
            2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 1.83
    Americans regular : 0.67
    Italians regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : -0.67
    British regular : -3.83
    

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  • Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Greece
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Kursk
                  Italians take Kursk from Russians
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 2 units out of 101 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Greece
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Battle in Alexandria
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Kursk
            1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad
    
        Place Units - Italians
            2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,4,4,3,5
            Italians collect 9 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs
    

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  • It doesn’t matter what I do with dice like this. SMH


  • @666 said in L22/23 PtV 666 vs AetV (Axis +14):

    It doesn’t matter what I do with dice like this. SMH

    I can relate to that.
    In my other game (BM4) it is the other way arround.
    A total attrition warfare. 14 Turns with just a slight improvement and finally the dice are coming back now. Well i hope.
    I do learn a lot through this long valley of shadows and death (patience,anger,fear and awareness),
    of course it is just frustrating.
    But this is the game we chose…


  • @aequitas-et-veritas I am sure you can relate! With all the games you are playing I am sure you have had bad dice. If you were a weaker player, my bad dice wouldn’t matter as much, but against strong opponents losing battles you should win makes things much more difficult. I envy you, I would rarely have made that Greece attack, but it worked out very well for you. That entire ITA turn could have easily gone very bad for you with those odds….beating strong opponents with bad dice and mistakes is quite difficult, 😆


  • I have to admitt that I thought about it very long and deeply.
    My final thought was to give it a try and go for a strafe.
    Normally the Egypt Area and the Mid East is a Nightmare to me, bc i tend to loose more often over the average units there.
    When i got the results of the first rounds in both battles i decided to go all in.
    Italy needs a deep breath. You are a strong opponent and i learned a lot from our first few games. You tend to come up with some Joker moves from time to time and you are allways ready for some surpises!
    Thank you for the compliment of calling me a strong opponent!
    At least for our two game at the moment, :grin: :grin:



  • Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 factory_minors, 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
            Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
                  Germans take Rostov from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda
                  Germans take Vologda from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Kirov
                  Germans take Kirov from Russians
    
        Combat - Germans
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Kursk
            1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 aaGun, 11 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Kursk
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Kursk
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel
            2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 carrier moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Romania
            2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad
            1 factory_minor placed in Ukraine
            6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            3 fighters placed in Western Germany
            1 destroyer placed in 115 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Germany
            2 infantry placed in Western Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,1,4,5,1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3
            Germans collect 50 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs
            Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Novgorod
                  Russians take Novgorod from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Samara to Rostov
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Tula to Smolensk
            1 fighter moved from Tula to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Tula to Rostov
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Rostov
                Russians attack with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bryansk
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
                Russians win, taking Bryansk from Italians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Smolensk
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
                Russians win, taking Smolensk from Italians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 submarine moved from 9 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Tula to Tambov
            4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Tula to Saratov
            1 armour moved from Samara to Saratov
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Saratov
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Russia
            4 artilleries moved from Tula to Russia
            13 infantry moved from Tula to Saratov
            1 aaGun moved from Tula to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Tula to Saratov
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            8 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Samara to Komi
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Urals
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia
            2 infantry placed in Stalingrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0.67
    Germans regular : -0.67
    Russians regular : -0.33
    

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  • Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
            1 armour moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Honan
            1 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia
            1 fighter moved from Chahar to Honan
            1 marine moved from Kyushu to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Iwo Jima
            1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber and 10 infantry
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber and 10 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 5/18 hits, 5,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 bomber and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Iwo Jima
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Iwo Jima
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Iwo Jima
                Japanese win, taking Iwo Jima from Americans with 3 fighters, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Honan
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan
                Japanese win, taking Honan from Chinese with 2 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Honan to Kiangsu
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
            2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Manilla to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 47 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iwo Jima to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to Kyushu
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Japan
            3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            3 infantry placed in Kwangtung
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 2,00
    Americans regular : 0,33
    Japanese regular : -4,67
    

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