L22 #2 pacifiersboard (X) vs trulpen (A+21) BM4


  • Rematch, same bid, reversed sides.

    Bid placement
    marine India
    sub z106
    fig Scotland



  • @trulpen

    39337_01ger-cm.tsvg

    scramble/submerge sz115?

    sz106: sub shoots but will not be taken as casualty if I hit before you??


  • I have first strike, so if my sub hits, then if your sub hits I’ll take the sub as casualty. If my sub doesn’t hit and you get atleast 1 hit, then take the des as casualty.


  • It will fight the first round atleast and then I’ll see depending on results.


  • @trulpen
    sz115 submerge and no scramble?


  • Yes, submerge and no scramble.



  • Have never gotten a G1DOW against me before.

    R1 L22 #2 pacifiersboard vs trulpen (+21) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1

       Purchase Units - Russians
    
           Russians buy 4 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Russians
    
           Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
    
               Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
    
           1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
    
           1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
    
           1 fighter moved from Russia to Bessarabia
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
    
           2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
    
           1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
    
    
    
       Combat - Russians
    
           Russians creates battle in territory 115 Sea Zone
    
           Battle in Bessarabia
    
               Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
    
               Germans defend with 2 infantry
    
                   Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
    
               Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in Eastern Poland
    
               Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
    
                   Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
    
               Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
    
           Battle in 115 Sea Zone
    
               Russians attack with 1 submarine
    
               Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
    
               1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Russians
    
           1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
    
           1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
    
           1 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
    
           2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
    
           3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
    
           1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
    
           2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
    
           6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
    
           6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
    
           2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
    
    
    
       Place Units - Russians
    
           3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
    
           3 infantry placed in Ukraine
    
           Russians undo move 2.
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
    
           5 infantry placed in Russia
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Russians
    
           Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    
           Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0,50

    Russians regular : 1,17



  • Did some crap with Leningrad. Need to change that setup. No influence from Japan, so hope that’s an ok NCM-change.


  • UCU1 L22 #2 pacifiersboard vs trulpen (+21) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 1

       Purchase Units - Americans
    
           Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Americans
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Americans
    
           1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
    
           1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
    
           1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
    
           1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
    
           1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
    
           2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
    
           1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
    
    
    
       Place Units - Americans
    
           2 carriers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Americans
    
           Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Chinese
    
           Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
           Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Chinese
    
           4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
    
    
    
       Combat - Chinese
    
           Battle in Yunnan
    
               Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
    
               Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
               Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Chinese
    
           1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
    
           2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
    
           1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
    
           2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
    
    
    
       Place Units - Chinese
    
           4 infantry placed in Szechwan
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Chinese
    
           Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
    
           Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - British
    
           British buy 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - British
    
           1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Combat - British
    
           Battle in 96 Sea Zone
    
               British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
                   British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
    
               British win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
    
               Casualties for British: 1 fighter
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
           Battle in 91 Sea Zone
    
               British attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
    
               Germans defend with 2 submarines
    
                   British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
               Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
    
                   2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone
    
               British win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
    
               Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
    
           Battle in 112 Sea Zone
    
               British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
    
               Germans defend with 1 submarine
    
                   British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
                   1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
    
               British win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - British
    
               Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
           1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
           1 bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
    
           2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
    
                 British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
    
           1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
    
           1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
    
           1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
    
           1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
    
                 British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
    
           EDIT: 3 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Russia
    
           EDIT: 2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Archangel
    
           EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
    
           EDIT: 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
    
           EDIT: 1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Archangel
    
           EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
    
           EDIT: 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
    
           1 marine moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
    
                 UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
    
           3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
    
           1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Burma to India
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Tanganyika Territory
    
           2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
    
           1 artillery moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
    
                 British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
    
           3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from India to Burma
    
           1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
    
    
    
       Place Units - British
    
           1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
    
           1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - British
    
           British collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs
    
           Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    
           Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
    
           Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
    
    
    
       Place Units - UK_Pacific
    
           4 infantry and 1 marine placed in India
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
    
           Some Units in India change ownership: 4 infantry and 1 marine
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -2,50

    Italians regular : 0,67

    Japanese regular : -2,00

    Germans regular : 0,50

    British regular : 0,33


  • @trulpen

    you might already suspect that

    you’re giving me a hard time to decide on this, as it makes quite immediately a huge difference and plenty of units move. I actually don’t know yet how to handle but hope to tell and send ITA turn to you soon. 🤨


  • @pacifiersboard said in L22 #2 pacifiersboard (X) vs trulpen (A+21) BM4:

    @trulpen

    you might already suspect that

    you’re giving me a hard time to decide on this, as it makes quite immediately a huge difference and plenty of units move. I actually don’t know yet how to handle but hope to tell and send ITA turn to you soon. 🤨

    I understand. Take your time.

    I can just ask you to be lenient. Sure, I’m supposedly at master level, but the chemo is killing me, as does the cancer. Play well below my standard and am often very tired. C’est la vie.


  • @trulpen

    hey, I have concluded to allow it! Even more, I thought of a perhaps easier fix that I would like to offer if it matched your proper plans better: how about we undo sz112 attack so that UK planes can be brought to Novgorod. That should work too… just let me know, what you prefer. It is up to you ;-)


  • Thanks! That’s a generous offer definitely worth looking into. Not attacking the sub sounds like a more rational choice. The des would then just hang out in z109 with the other ships. Would be able to land 2 fig, 1 sb in Leningrad. Slightly risky, but atleast a -30 expected TUV in case of an attack. We can go with that, if you’re ok with it.


  • @trulpen

    well, do you happen to have a file from before the former edits?


  • Sure thing. Got it.

    This should be about right.

    UCU1 editR L22 #2 pacifiersboard vs trulpen (+21) BM4.tsvg


  • @trulpen

    nice. do you wanna send me a new file with a setup Italy continues with?


  • The file above should be it. Let me check.

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