L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4


  • It’s ok to change after Japan.


  • J3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Japanese
    
           Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
    
    
       Politics - Japanese
    
           Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
    
           Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
    
               Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Japanese
    
           Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
    
           1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
    
                 Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
    
                 Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
    
                 Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
    
                 Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
    
           1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
    
                 Japanese take French Indo China from French
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
    
           2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
    
           1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
    
           4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
    
           2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Yunnan
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
    
           1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Combat - Japanese
    
           Battle in Java
    
           Battle in Borneo
    
           Battle in Celebes
    
           Battle in Sumatra
    
           Battle in Guam
    
           Battle in Malaya
    
           Battle in Kwangtung
    
               Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    
               British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3,33 expected hits
    
                   UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
    
               Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific, taking Guam from Americans, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for British: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in Philippines
    
               Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 marine
    
               Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 marine in Philippines, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    
                   Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
    
               Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in Yunnan
    
               Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    
               Chinese defend with 4 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/14 hits, 5,83 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
    
               Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Japanese
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 39 Sea Zone: 1 transport
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
    
           1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           1 armour moved from Jehol to Hunan
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
    
           2 fighters moved from Kwangtung to 6 Sea Zone
    
           3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to Japan
    
           1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           2 destroyers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           2 destroyers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
           1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 41 Sea Zone
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from Philippines to Kiangsi
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
    
           2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Hopei
    
    
    
       Place Units - Japanese
    
           1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Japanese
    
           Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 63 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 66 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,67

    Americans regular : 0,33

    Japanese regular : 3,67

    UK_Pacific regular : -0,67


  • Change positioning around the DEI.

    J3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg


  • Another change, although I’m not att the computer so can’t post a new file. Anyway, the sub will stay in z42 instead of joining the bs in z37. Juat a little extra support to further dissuade some crazy double-attack on the fleet.


  • May even have to pull back more from z41 and/or 37. Will have to look at it more closely.


  • Better safe than sorry. Stacking z42.



  • @trulpen

    UK3.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Americans
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 6: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 61 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 63 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 51 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 63 Sea Zone to New Zealand
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 51 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 85 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to French Guiana
            1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Queensland
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            5 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kansu
                Chinese attack with 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            3 infantry placed in Tsinghai
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 4 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Kenya
                  British take Kenya from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
                  British take Ethiopia from Italians
            1 infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Italian Somaliland
            Battle in 39 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                British win, taking Italian Somaliland from Italians, taking 39 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt
            1 marine moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Persia to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Persia to Caucasus
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
            1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            2 aaGuns moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
    
        Place Units - British
            2 submarines placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            7 infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 7 infantry
    

  • @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    If i was to stack belarus instead the buy would probably change as well.

    Seems you choose to stack Leningrad after all. That’s a bold venture risking splitting the formiable Red Army, but I guess Russia wants to take a bite after half of the Luftwaffe is taking a permanent vacation in the Med. We’ll see how it plays out.


  • @trulpen said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    If i was to stack belarus instead the buy would probably change as well.

    Seems you choose to stack Leningrad after all. That’s a bold venture risking splitting the formiable Red Army, but I guess Russia wants to take a bite after half of the Luftwaffe is taking a permanent vacation in the Med. We’ll see how it plays out.

    We will see how it goes. There is a good chance I’ll regret this but it seemed to me to be possible in the circumstances. And it’s fun to try something different.


  • Yes, might be worth a try. Germany does have a complicated task of protecting both an incursion in Belarus and it’s problematic fleet. Again I realize grabbing Iceland is a pretty suspect move.

    I3 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Italians
    
           Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Italians
    
           1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
    
                 Italians take Morocco from French
    
           1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
    
                 Italians take Alexandria from British
    
           1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
    
           1 armour moved from Romania to Belarus
    
                 Italians take Belarus from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Poland to Belarus
    
           2 infantry moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
    
    
    
       Combat - Italians
    
           Battle in Malta
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Italians
    
           2 fighters moved from Greece to Norway
    
           1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
    
           1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           2 aaGuns and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
    
    
    
       Place Units - Italians
    
           1 carrier placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Italians
    
           Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs
    
           Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
    
           Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • I also feel I have to go for it instead of playing defense already.


  • @trulpen

    This is going to make for an interesting G/R 4. A decisive win in Belarus for either of us probably determines the game.

    Fre3.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from India to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                ANZAC win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                ANZAC win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            3 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to India
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
        Combat - French
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                French attack with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                French win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

  • @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    This is going to make for an interesting G/R 4. A decisive win in Belarus for either of us probably determines the game.

    Oh, I think have to revise the italian grab of Belarus. Calculated with 32 russian inf, but see now that it’s actually 42. Duh. Think it was a good buy and move then of you to stay in Leningrad.


  • @trulpen that is fine. I was surprised you went for it.


  • It would’ve been a washout. Thanks!

    G4 L22 #3 trulpen vs farmboy (+17) BM4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 4

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 1 airfield and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Changing ownership of Belarus from Italians to Russians
    
           EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 26 to 25
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: 2 armour moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
    
                 Germans take Ukraine from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
    
                 Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
    
                 Germans take Belarus from Russians
    
           1 armour moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
    
                 Germans take Southern France from French
    
           1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
    
           1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
    
           1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Strategic bombing raid in Egypt
    
                   British roll AA dice in Egypt : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
                   British roll AA dice in Egypt : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
               Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_minor
    
               Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: harbour
    
               Bombing raid in Egypt causes 10 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: factory_minor = 4, harbour = 6
    
           Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               Germans attack with 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               French defend with 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1,67 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 2 artilleries in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
    
                   French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
    
               Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
    
               Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
    
               Casualties for French: 2 artilleries
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           2 bombers moved from Egypt to Greece
    
           1 infantry moved from Iceland to 123 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun, 5 armour, 7 artilleries, 27 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
    
           1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
    
           1 aaGun moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
    
           9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Norway
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Yugoslavia
    
           1 aaGun moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
    
           1 infantry moved from 125 Sea Zone to Norway
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
    
           1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Algeria to Greece
    
           1 aaGun, 1 armour and 6 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
    
           1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           9 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
           1 airfield placed in Norway
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 59 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 2,00

    British AA : -0,33

    Germans regular : 1,00


  • @trulpen I was surprised you went for it but I was thinking of ways that you could make it work after and I thought one option you had (which I initially missed) was to attack Leningrad and retreat to Belarus, either trading the inf in karelia/vyborg against mine or retreating them and the tank to belarus. That might have evened the odds in belarus. I still don’t think I would have risked it, but I thought that might make an attack by me more of a gamble.


  • @farmboy said in L22 #3 trulpen (X) vs farmboy (A+17) BM4:

    @trulpen I was surprised you went for it but I was thinking of ways that you could make it work after and I thought one option you had (which I initially missed) was to attack Leningrad and retreat to Belarus, either trading the inf in karelia/vyborg against mine or retreating them and the tank to belarus. That might have evened the odds in belarus. I still don’t think I would have risked it, but I thought that might make an attack by me more of a gamble.

    I actually looked at that option, but the problem there is that I would likely lose much more than you, which would make a counter-attack even better for Russia. If the expected TUV would’ve been about even it might’ve been worth the risk, but probably not. Still a very high risk option. If the stack had been in the Baltic it would’ve been a great move, but then you wouldn’t have stacked Leningrad.


  • @trulpen yeah you would likely lose more than me, but probably not lose many units that could defend Belarus whereas I would have lost units that were part of the attack. Definitely risky and depending on the dice, it might make things worse, but it might have given you more of a chance too. When you took belarus I thought you must have been thinking of something like that given the odds I had were 80%.


  • @farmboy Sov4.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
                  Russians take Belarus from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 aaGun, 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 16 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
            6 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 aaGun, 10 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
    
        Place Units - Russians
            7 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Russia
            1 mech_infantry placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 2.00
    

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