1914 TGC (Central Powers) vs VF (Entente) oob, no bid, RR


  • @the_good_captain

    But on the other hand, it really doesn’t matter that much, so I’ll do the rest of the UK roll and then I will ask you the OOL :)


  • @the_good_captain

    f6_b6-ool 2.tsvg

    This is more like it. 11 hits. OOL?


  • @victoryfirst pretty much straight down the middle - Ottomans will take all infantry casualties


  • @the_good_captain

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Puchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by French to SZ 10: 1 mines
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 10: 1 mines
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from London to SZ 9
            1 infantry moved from Yorkshire to SZ 9
            1 infantry moved from Scotland to SZ 9
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 3 cruisers, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 9 to SZ 10
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from SZ 10 to Kiel
            3 infantry moved from Belgium to Holland
            4 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Belgium to Alsace
            1 infantry moved from Lorraine to Alsace
            5 artilleries, 2 fighters and 22 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
            2 infantry moved from India to SZ 29
            1 fighter moved from India to Mesopotamia
            2 infantry moved from SZ 29 to Mesopotamia
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from British East Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
    
        Combat - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Coastal Barrage 5: 5 coastal_attackers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Coastal Barrage 5: 5 coastal_attackers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Mesopotamia: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Air Battle in Mesopotamia
                British attacks with 3 units heading to Mesopotamia
                Ottomans launches 4 interceptors out of Mesopotamia
                Air Battle is over, the attackers have all died
            Battle in Mesopotamia
                British attack with 5 artilleries and 22 infantry
                Ottomans defend with 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 17 infantry
                Ottomans and British reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 12 infantry
                Casualties for Ottomans: 12 infantry
    
        Combat Move - British
            6 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia
    
        Place Units - British
            4 infantry placed in London
            2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    F6_B6.tsvg

    Alright, you got 12 hits. Pretty even battle I would say.


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Puchase Units - Ottomans
            Ottomans buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Arabia to Mesopotamia
            1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
            1 fighter moved from Constantinople to Mesopotamia
            1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syrian Desert
            1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
            4 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
    
        Combat - Ottomans
            Battle in Mesopotamia
                Ottomans attack with 8 artilleries, 5 fighters and 13 infantry
                British defend with 5 artilleries and 10 infantry
                    Ottomans roll dice for 8 artilleries, 5 fighters and 13 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 13/26 hits, 12.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 5 artilleries and 10 infantry in Mesopotamia, round 2 : 11/15 hits, 7.50 expected hits
                    9 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 2 fighters owned by the Ottomans, 4 artilleries owned by the British and 9 infantry owned by the British lost in Mesopotamia
                British and Ottomans reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Ottomans: 2 fighters and 9 infantry
                Casualties for British: 4 artilleries and 9 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Ottomans
    
        Place Units - Ottomans
            6 infantry placed in Constantinople
    
        Turn Complete - Ottomans
            Ottomans collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Ottomans regular : 0.33
    British regular : 3.50
    

    o6.tsvg


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Puchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Rome to SZ 17
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 19
            2 infantry moved from SZ 19 to Smyrna
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            4 artilleries and 30 infantry moved from Tuscany to Venice
                  Italians take Venice from AustroHungarians
            1 infantry moved from Piedmont to Venice
            2 infantry moved from Rome to Tuscany
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Serbia
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Smyrna
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                Ottomans defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Ottomans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smyrna, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Smyrna
                Ottomans and Italians reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Serbia
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Serbia
                Italians win, taking Serbia from AustroHungarians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Italians
    
        Place Units - Italians
            5 infantry placed in Rome
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0,00
    Ottomans regular : 0,50
    AustroHungarians regular : -0,50
    

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Puchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Spanish Morocco to SZ 14
            1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Albania to Serbia
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from SZ 17 to Albania
            4 transports moved from SZ 17 to SZ 14
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spanish Morocco
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from SZ 14 to SZ 17
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 transports placed in SZ 1
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United States of America
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 20 PUs; end with 22 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    I6_US6.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst when the Italians took over Serbia, it should have gone to Russia, not Italy. So the Italian IPC should be at 16, not 18.

    I don’t know if this information would alter the American turn but if it does, please feel free to change what/where you want the US units. It might not have any effect but I wanted to point that out to be sure before moving forward.


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Serbia from Italians to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 18 to 16
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            AustroHungarians buy 3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
            1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Ukraine
            5 artilleries moved from Belarus to Ukraine
            4 fighters moved from Belarus to Galicia
            2 artilleries moved from Galicia to Ukraine
            5 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
            10 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
            6 artilleries moved from Trieste to Serbia
            1 fighter and 1 tank moved from Trieste to Serbia
            12 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
            1 infantry moved from Trieste to Tyrolia
    
        Combat - AustroHungarians
            Battle in Serbia
                AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 1 tank
                Italians defend with 2 infantry; Americans defend with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
                    AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 1 tank in Serbia, round 2 : 11/18 hits, 9.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                    4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 6 infantry owned by the Americans, 2 artilleries owned by the Americans and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Serbia
                AustroHungarians win, taking Serbia from Russians with 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
    
        Combat Move - AustroHungarians
    
        Place Units - AustroHungarians
            3 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 tanks placed in Vienna
    
        Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
            AustroHungarians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0.00
    AustroHungarians regular : 2.00
    

    AH13.tsvg


  • @victoryfirst Entente is up my dude, no rush.


  • @the_good_captain

    Just to make sure: the Russian revolution rule takes into effect when three territories adjacent to Moscow are CP controlled (so not contested), and at least one more Russian territory is contested/controlled, right?
    And of course only if the CP also agree to it :)


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Puchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol
                  Russians take Sevastopol from AustroHungarians
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Tatarstan
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Moscow
    
        Combat - Russians
    
        Combat Move - Russians
    
        Place Units - Russians
            4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    R7.tsvg

    Thanks for pointing that thing out by the way about Serbia. I didn’t realize that in the heat of the battle!

    And also, we are in turn 7. Not turn 13, as is stated in your Austro-Hungarian save file :)


  • @victoryfirst said in 1914 TGC (Central Powers) vs VF (Entente) oob, no bid, RR:

    @the_good_captain

    Just to make sure: the Russian revolution rule takes into effect when three territories adjacent to Moscow are CP controlled (so not contested), and at least one more Russian territory is contested/controlled, right?
    And of course only if the CP also agree to it :)

    exactly =)


  • @victoryfirst Poland is an original Russian territory. Under the current conditions, Russia must offer an armistice. Your previous question makes me feel that this is not what you want? Or maybe it is. Anyway, the turn you have posted here is an offer for armistice. I just want to confirm thats what you wanted. If not, feel free to redo the turn.


  • @victoryfirst Poland and Finland are both original Russian territories. Okay, I see what you’re getting at - CP must decide to accept armistice or continue the war here…hmmm. I will have to think.


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Puchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 2 tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 units repaired.
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Livonia to SZ 12
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from SZ 12 to Finland
            6 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Poland
            4 artilleries, 4 fighters and 37 infantry moved from Livonia to Poland
            4 fighters moved from Poland to Silesia
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Silesia
            3 infantry moved from Silesia to Hanover
            1 tank moved from Berlin to Kiel
            1 tank moved from Hanover to Kiel
            1 tank moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            2 fighters moved from Berlin to Ruhr
            9 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
            6 artilleries moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            1 artillery moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            1 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
            7 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Kiel
                Germans attack with 7 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 tanks
                British defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 port
                    Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 tanks in Kiel, round 2 : 6/19 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Kiel, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the Germans
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Kiel
                Germans win, taking Kiel from French with 7 artilleries, 7 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 10: 1 mines
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 10: 1 mines
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery, 9 infantry and 2 tanks placed in Berlin
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 2.00
    Germans regular : -2.67
    

    G7.tsvg The Central Powers will accept the armistice. I’ve adjusted the map for the Russian Revolution.


  • @victoryfirst France is up


  • @the_good_captain

    Huh? But how is the Russian Revolution ignited, while there were not three territories adjacent to Moscow CP controlled, at the end of the RUssian turn? There were only two, and one was contested. Although the CP retook Belarus on their turn, the Russians still have time until the end of their turn to retake it, right?

    Sorry that I didn’t respond yesterday, but I actually asked that question so that I make sure Russia survives for a couple more turns. I thought when I contest Belarus, I make sure Russia doesn’t fall this round. Those Russian forces tie a lot of CP units up :)

    Please let me know if I am mistaken anywhere.


  • @victoryfirst but you didn’t contest Belarus or roll any dice as Russia…? You can see this in the history you posted:

    Capture.PNG

    If this is not what you wanted, you’ll have to re-do round 7 for Russia and thats fine with me - just make sure you roll dice and contest/capture Belarus.


  • @the_good_captain
    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Puchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Moscow to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Tatarstan to Sevastopol
                  Russians take Sevastopol from AustroHungarians
            1 infantry moved from Moscow to Tatarstan
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Moscow
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                AustroHungarians defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans and Russians reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Russians
    
        Place Units - Russians
            4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0,50
    Russians regular : -1,33
    

    R7.tsvg

    The game maybe didn’t register my moves correctly. I am sure I contested Belarus. Or I just forgot and didn’t realize it :)


  • @victoryfirst

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Puchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            2 units repaired.
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            2 artilleries moved from Livonia to Karelia
            6 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Moscow
            2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 38 infantry moved from Livonia to Moscow
            1 artillery moved from Livonia to Moscow
            1 infantry moved from Poland to SZ 12
            1 infantry moved from SZ 12 to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Hanover to Munich
            7 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
            1 tank moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            1 tank moved from Hanover to Kiel
            1 tank moved from Berlin to Kiel
            9 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
            5 artilleries moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            1 artillery moved from Ruhr to Kiel
            2 fighters moved from Berlin to Ruhr
            3 infantry moved from Silesia to Hanover
    
        Combat - Germans
            Germans creates battle in territory SZ 12
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                    Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
                Russians and Germans reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Air Battle in Moscow
                Germans attacks with 4 units heading to Moscow
                Russians launches 3 interceptors out of Moscow
                    Attackers Fire,  : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Defenders Fire,  : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Attackers Fire,  : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Defenders Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                Air Battle is over, the defenders have all died
            Battle in Moscow
                Germans attack with 9 artilleries, 4 fighters and 39 infantry
                Russians defend with 9 artilleries, 1 factory and 63 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries, 4 fighters and 39 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 26/52 hits, 21.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 9 artilleries and 63 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 33/72 hits, 36.00 expected hits
                    26 infantry owned by the Russians and 33 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                Russians and Germans reach a stalemate
                . Battle score for attacker is -21
                Casualties for Germans: 33 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 26 infantry
            Battle in Kiel
                Germans attack with 6 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 tanks
                British defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry; French defend with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 port
                    Germans roll dice for 6 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 tanks in Kiel, round 2 : 9/18 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Kiel, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the Germans
                    1 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Kiel
                Germans win, taking Kiel from French with 6 artilleries, 9 infantry and 3 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    
        Combat Move - Germans
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery, 3 fighters and 7 infantry placed in Berlin
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : 0.00
    Defenders Fire,  : -1.33
    Attackers Fire,  : 0.33
    Russians regular : -2.50
    Germans regular : 2.83
    

    G7.tsvg

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