Edit: Not directed at CStraw, he snuck in a post as I was typing this.
How did I miss this thread?
I’d like to say, maybe tone it down a bit. Â This just goes for everyone. Â
This is eirly similar to my games with AgentSmith and some Classic threads, we’ve probably played 4-5 games with me winning maybe 2 and Agent 3. Â But we still argued over who was better blah blah blah. Â And it got nowhere fast.
And least no one has been called a “Chucker yet”. Â
Clearly if CStraw wants to play Switch he can and if he doesn’t then no big deal. Â But even if they were to play one game it wouldn’t solve who was “better”.
Cough Â LL vs. ADS debate Â Cough
We should all remember it is a game and the most important thing is to have fun. Â I love some friendly trash talking, but I think we’ve gotten a little beyond that, so lets reign it in.
We don’t want to suppress strat talk, and if some things work for some players, then great, will it work against everyone, nope. Â And I don’t think anyone is professing to have the be all and end all of strats, cause their isn’t one.
There isn’t one in Classic, and there won’t be one in Revised.
Give it a few more years and I think you’ll find the so called “elite” players using specific moves/counters, not b/c cause they win 100% of the games, but b/c cause they give them the opportunity to win 70-80%.
To flashback to Classic, I think a 22-23 PE bid is very beatable for the Allies, why?? Â It is designed for a specific purpose and once you know the one to two best ways on how to defend it on R1, it is useless to go with a 22-23 PE bid.
BUT a 22-23 PAfr bid gives options, hence a better chance to win long term.
Now to Revised, you will see the same thing (not in bid amounts), but in what may be consider a “gimmick” or “one trick pony” strat (like a PE bid) and what strats give you the best chance at long term success against any random person.
Does PE still work in Classic, yes. Â But I would consider it a bit of a gimmick and not a particularly fun game or style to play. Â And it goes with an assumption that your opponent is inexperienced and I think that is a very bad assumption to make, especially when playing someone you don’t know before hand.
Now, I don’t know anything about these C-Sub papers or anything, but if they work for certain styles, under certain circumstances, or as specific counters then great, but my personal style is geneally geared on position, being land based, right around the center of the board, I consider everything else secondary.