Socialism V. Capitalism/US Foreign Policy/Arabs-Israelis


  • “The US Media tries to be objective in the conflict, but Israeli spokesmen get much more time than Palestinian Spokesmen. Ever see the (said by MSNBC) “Objective” show Allen Keys is making sense? He might as well fly an Israeli flag.”

    How aboutr on fox news? The israeli guy makes a good point with numbers and common sense, and the arab guy doesn’t shut up and keeps going onto a different tangent because they don’t want to interrupt him because it isn’t ery “fair and balanced.” the media turned the palestinians into david of daing and goliath, and they want to justify what the palestinians do to seem balanced. our media is shifting europe’s way. Especially after the Jenin incident.


  • Also, notice how the mediaq baisically ignored all the anti-semitic violence in France? But when the Israelis attacked Jenin, the media went wild.


  • Media sucks. They are always looking for a good story, even if it is a far stretch from the truth. Arafat’s past is put on the back burner of the stove while Osama has the biggest burner in the front to fry. Now Arafat is a good guy, despite all the things he has done. If you want the truth about things, go underground. My favorite site about current events and issues around the world is z-mag. The only thing on tv I watch now are the history channel, discovery, animal planet, discovery health, and TLC. Im sick of being lied to. Knowledge is power, arm yourself.


  • On 2002-05-10 18:42, Disclaimer wrote:

    If you want the truth about things, go underground.

    Unfortunately, underground is often a codeword for the unpopular propaganda. But not always.


  • Never thought of that. So either way you look at it there is no way around being lied to. I guess I should train my eye for the infamous propaganda.


  • Everyone has a bias. Some have less than others. On Znet they have less of a bias, than say NPR. But it still exists.


  • But is the bias something that will exist within any form of media?


  • Yes, because all human beings have at least some sort of mild bias at the very least. However, it varies depending upon the subject. Bias doesn’t display itself on an update about a forest fire ;p
    More like 20/20 (the show)


  • Is there a reasonable definition for Bias or Bia material besides lies?


  • Bias doesn’t neccessarily mean lies; often it is simply an empasis on one side of an issue. I display bias when I argue against abortion.

    The problem is when bias stops the media from telling the whole story.


  • I see the light.


  • What about the food channel, Disclaimer?


    “My honour is my loyalty.”

    [ This Message was edited by: Candyman67 on 2002-05-11 12:01 ]


  • Ah candyman, I think we should add your sense of humor to the bias information.


  • no FOX or YES channel? You animal!

    Bias is everywhere, so go everywhere…the truth is somewhere.


  • The truth is somewhere, and bias is everywhere; something about this sentence doesn’t make sense. If there are always slanted stories, then one will never see the truth.


  • Still lost, but it is late.


  • There is always one truth, but it often has multiple branches. For example, the Small Pox Vaccine protects people from Small Pox, but it kills like one out of every few thousand. I could emphasize either side. thats bias. But it is still the truth.
    Theres also a cost issue, and distribution, plus it discourages terrorists, it goes on and on. Truth can (but not always) be evident even when bias is present.


  • So how does one distinguish between bias information and the truth?


  • Bias is part of the truth. Take this for example:

    Something happens in Palestine/Israel. So I turn to NPR(liberal) to get the Palestinian side, and then to AM Talk Radio (conservative) for the Israeli side.

    Thats why debates are so good, between the two biases you ussually get the whole truth.


  • Aha, thanks.

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