L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43)

  • '22

    Game History

    Round: 8
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese repair damage of 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 50 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 4 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Malaya
            1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            2 artilleries moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 2 transports
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Korea
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 5 artilleries and 13 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 artilleries and 13 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/18 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Korea from Americans, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 5 artilleries and 13 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Malaya
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 aaGun moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malaya to French Indo China
            1 bomber moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            4 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            6 fighters moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Japan to Kwangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            3 infantry placed in Kwangtung
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Yunnan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangsi: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Siam: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to French Indo China: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : 0.50
    UK_Pacific regular : 0.00
    
  • '22



  • L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 8

       Purchase Units - Americans
    
           Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Americans
    
           1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Ukraine
    
           1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
                 Americans take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
    
           8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Combat - Americans
    
           Strategic bombing raid in Ukraine
    
                   Germans roll AA dice in Ukraine : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
               Bombing raid in Ukraine rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor
    
               Bombing raid in Ukraine causes 3 damage total. 
    
           Battle in Philippines
    
           Battle in 36 Sea Zone
    
               Americans attack with 8 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
    
                   Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 36 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 36 Sea Zone
    
               Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking 36 Sea Zone from Neutral with 8 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Americans
    
           8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
           1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Western United States to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
    
           1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
    
           1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
    
           1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Amur to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 battleship, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 2 fighters and 4 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
    
           1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Place Units - Americans
    
           1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
    
           1 fighter placed in Western United States
    
           2 infantry placed in Central United States
    
           1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
    
           EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 93 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           Americans undo move 6.
    
           1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Americans
    
           Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 68 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
    
           Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Chinese
    
           Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
           Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Chinese
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Chinese
    
           Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 5 PUs
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - British
    
           British buy 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - British
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
    
           2 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
    
           EDIT: 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           3 artilleries moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
    
           1 battleship moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
    
    
    
       Combat - British
    
           Battle in 97 Sea Zone
    
               British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Americans loiter and taunt
    
               Germans defend with 1 submarine; Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
    
                   British roll dice for 2 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 3 submarines in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
    
               British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
    
               Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
           Battle in Cyprus
    
               British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
               Italians defend with 1 infantry
    
                   British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Cyprus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Cyprus
    
               British win, taking Cyprus from Italians with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
    
               Casualties for British: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
    
           Battle in Malta
    
               British attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
    
               Italians defend with 1 infantry
    
                   British roll dice for 1 battleship in Malta, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Malta
    
               British win, taking Malta from Italians with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - British
    
           Turning on Edit Mode
    
           EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
           3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to India
    
           2 fighters moved from Persia to Russia
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
    
           2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
    
           3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
    
           3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
    
           1 aaGun moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
    
           3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
    
           1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
    
           EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Morocco to Gibraltar
    
           EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Gibraltar
    
           EDIT: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Gibraltar
    
           1 submarine moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Northwest Persia
    
    
    
       Place Units - British
    
           3 fighters placed in Persia
    
           1 infantry placed in Egypt
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - British
    
           British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
    
           Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    
    
    
       Place Units - UK_Pacific
    
           2 infantry placed in India
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    
           UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
    
           Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,67

    Italians regular : -0,83

    Japanese regular : -0,33

    Germans AA : -0,17

    British regular : 1,17

  • '22

    Americans regular : 0,67

    Italians regular : -0,83

    Japanese regular : -0,33

    Germans AA : -0,17

    British regular : 1,17

    Of course every allied is above expected and every axis is below what’s new lol

  • '22

    average TUV swing seems to be less bad with scramble in sz97 so I will reroll it


  • Which figs to scramble?

  • '22

    3 Italian fighters

  • '22

    If you need to adjust noncombat based on results I have no problem with that of course



  • Adjusted. 2 UK-figs on the US-ac.

    UCU8 L21 SF jkeller vs trulpen (+43) OOB.tsvg

  • '22

    @jkeller holy shit 34 ipc below expectation lol that was horrible


  • Wasn’t good for Mussolini. With the bad result on the first go I can understand you wanted another shot. Could’ve worked, but this was of course worse. I’ll try to not assume so much regarding scrambles, but rather await your decisions.


  • The difference in TUV between the two results was just 8 though.


  • Oh, wait, perhaps not.

  • '22

    wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet

  • '22


  • Yes, seems correct.

    First was +26.

    Second +34.

    Expected TUV was +10.


  • @jkeller said in L21 playoff OOB jkeller(X) vs trulpen (L+43):

    wasnt based on dice at all but average expected outcome. of course average does not mean it will be better than even a bad initial roll lol. oh well i would still make same decision again especially with even a small possibility of killing uk fighters and german counter on british fleet

    Yep, that actually makes a lot of sense.

  • '22

    initial roll was -28 vs -20 expected. adjusted battle was -44 vs a -10 expected. but i would do it again

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