1914 - TGC (CP) vs. VF (Entente), oob, no bid

I believe the only optional rule is Russian Revolution. I hope its okay with you if we use this optional rule at least for this first game? Not sure who it will help/hurt more but would like to try it.

@the_good_captain

Game History

Round: 1

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Tyrolia to Venice
        1 infantry moved from Trieste to SZ 18
        1 infantry moved from SZ 18 to Tuscany
        4 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice
        1 artillery moved from Trieste to Venice
        1 artillery moved from Trieste to Venice
        1 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia
        2 artilleries moved from Budapest to Serbia
        5 infantry moved from Budapest to Serbia
        1 infantry moved from Budapest to Serbia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Tuscany
            AustroHungarians attack with 1 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 battleship in Tuscany, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tuscany, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tuscany
            Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Venice
            AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries and 10 infantry
            Italians defend with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries and 10 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 6.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Venice, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 5 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Venice
            Italians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 5 infantry
        Battle in Serbia
            AustroHungarians attack with 2 artilleries and 7 infantry
            Neutral_Allied defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 7 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Neutral_Allied, 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied and 1 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Serbia
            Neutral_Allied and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        6 infantry moved from Budapest to Galicia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Bohemia to Galicia
        2 artilleries moved from Vienna to Galicia
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        10 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 26 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.50
Neutral_Allied regular : -1.00
AustroHungarians regular : -1.67

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@VictoryFirst ^ this download is good to go

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 1

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        4 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Kiel to Denmark
        1 fighter moved from Berlin to Denmark
        3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium
        3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Alsace to Belgium
        3 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Denmark
            Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Neutral_True defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Neutral_True roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Denmark, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_True lost in Denmark
            Neutral_True and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_True: 3 infantry
        Battle in Belgium
            Germans attack with 6 artilleries and 14 infantry
            Neutral_Allied defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 6 artilleries and 14 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 13/20 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Belgium, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Neutral_Allied, 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belgium
            Germans win, taking Belgium from Neutral_Allied with 6 artilleries and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Battle in Poland
            Germans attack with 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland
            Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Prussia to Silesia
        3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace
        6 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
        2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia

    Place Units - Germans
        1 fighter and 9 infantry placed in Berlin
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Denmark: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Denmark: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 7: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from SZ 5: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 10: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to SZ 4: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Neutral_Allied regular : 0.00
Russians regular : -0.50
Germans regular : 3.83
Neutral_True regular : -1.00

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@VictoryFirst

updated with Africa. sorry about that. I edited +3 German PU.
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@victoryfirst

My bad, I loaded it “offline”.

You can make the edits using the original G1?

@victoryfirst British are up now

@victoryfirst My vote is you do with the cruisers what you would have done had you known exactly how the rules worked. Honestly, I didn’t even know that so no worries.

@VictoryFirst

this UK cruiser attack against the German subs is actually really interesting. First the rule:

“The submarine, although submerging rather than firing, is still
subject to the results of that round’s enemy combat die rolls. If they
roll a hit the submarine may be chosen as a casualty or must be the
casualty if it is the only target. If the submarine survives the die roll
and submerges, it is considered to have broken off from the battle
and may not fire or be taken as a casualty in any subsequent round
of the battle.” -page 20

So the order of operations (as I see it) should be:

A) British cruisers move into the sea zone with the two German subs and declare an attack
B) The Germans must now decide if they will declare their subs “submerged” or not.
C) If the German subs submerge, UK cruisers each roll a die and apply casualties. There is no return fire from the German subs in this case.
D) If the German subs decide NOT to submerge, the first round is fought “normally” with both sides rolling a pair of dice: the British hit on “3” or less, the Germans hit on “2” or less.
E) Repeat until one side wins, the British retreat or the German sub(s) are submeged.

@VictoryFirst

I’m not sure what my personal decision would have been in this case - an open fight with both of those cruisers was only a 63% chance of UK winning since subs defend on “2” in 1914. Since this game is supposedly imbalanced in favor of the allies, I feel this would be a great opportunity to knock out one or both UK cruisers. Did you think subs defend on a “1”?

Maybe the best thing to do in this case is to keep your cruisers in the sea zone with my subs and we say that my subs declared a “submerge” before we saw your roll. In this case, mine never rolled back at you so we can ignore the hit. Chalk it up to inexperience on the part of both of us?

@victoryfirst

“If a major power moves units into a minor neutral power’s capital territory, the invaded neutral power will mobilize forces against the invading force. Serious consideration should be given to which power will represent the mobilized forces. It can be any of the powers that are on the opposite side from the power that is performing the invasion. For example if Germany (Central Powers member) invaded Holland, one of the Allied players would place his or her infantry and artillery. It should also be noted that if Holland ends up being controlled by the Allies, the ally who originally mobilized in Holland would most likely gain Holland’s 2 IPCs if the territory ends up in his or her control.”

I wasn’t sure this would ever really matter but the UK invasion of Persia meant that I was supposed to declare Persia to mobilize Austrian, German or Ottoman pieces. It sounds like this is done before the combat round not that that matters much. Anyway, I will turn them into Ottoman pieces before starting my turn. You probably should decide which country the Danish will be mobilized by too.

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 1

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria
              Ottomans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Central

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Sevastopol
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 port
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Sevastopol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Sevastopol
            Ottomans win, taking Sevastopol from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Ottomans to Persia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Syrian Desert to Mesopotamia
        1 artillery moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syrian Desert
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Mesopotamia
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara

    Place Units - Ottomans
        1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 21 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.50
Ottomans regular : -0.33

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@victoryfirst

first, the rules:

“All movement is considered to take place at the same time, and must be completed in this phase.” -page 17 (I have been bad at this, I will make sure I’m not using the NCM phase going forward)

and most importantly, this:

“Combat occurs when your units share the same space with units belonging to one or more opposing powers and you decide to commit your units to an attack. Only enemy units may be attacked. When attacking, all units in the space belonging to your power must attack. You are required to attack only in territories that have become contested this turn due to your movement of units into them. Attacks in territories that were already contested at the beginning of the turn and in sea zones are always optional, even if you have moved units into them this turn.”

In short, if you did not want to attack, you did not have to.

The practical fix for this in TripleA is the following: If you do not wish to attack in a contested territory, BEFORE any dice are rolled EDIT your units in the contested territory and make them all neutral. After the Combat phase, turn them all back into units of your side. That’s the only way to keep things in good faith as far as I can see.

So what did “Previous Units Fight” do…?..? lol

@victoryfirst the Americans are up now.

@victoryfirst

Game History

Round: 2

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by AustroHungarians from Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Neutral_True to Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Venice to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 artillery moved from Serbia to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        3 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        6 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Galicia to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Serbia

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Serbia
            AustroHungarians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Neutral_Allied defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allied lost in Serbia
            AustroHungarians win, taking Serbia from Neutral_Allied with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Allied: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            AustroHungarians attack with 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Russians and AustroHungarians reach a stalemate
        Battle in Romania
            AustroHungarians attack with 6 artilleries and 25 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 25 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 14/31 hits, 12.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                6 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Romania
            AustroHungarians win, taking Romania from Russians with 6 artilleries and 23 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 6 infantry

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to Venice: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        4 infantry moved from Vienna to Galicia

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        2 fighters and 5 infantry placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Neutral_Allied regular : -0.50
Russians regular : -2.00
AustroHungarians regular : -0.83

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