2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22)


  • @ksmckay said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):

    @axis-dominion thats fine.

    are you sure? didn’t realize you were pretty much done with your turn lol. sorry about that

  • '19

    @axis-dominion yep wouldnt have changed anything


  • @ksmckay said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):

    @axis-dominion yep wouldnt have changed anything

    thanks


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 carriers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Caroline Islands
            2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kweichow
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Manchuria
            1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Anhwe
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            2 carriers and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 44 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : 0.33
    

    Savegame


  • I expect this all looks quite familiar to you :grin:

  • '19

    @axis-dominion I hate this opening :)

    Tried to discourage it by offering some tempting targets and was really hoping for a j1.

    Unfortunately it’s a really strong opening. I don’t know what allies can do with it.

  • '19

    @axis-dominion Haven’t played axis since semis, was hoping you would forget about it :)


  • @ksmckay said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):

    @axis-dominion Haven’t played axis since semis, was hoping you would forget about it :)

    nope, I remember it quite fondly, after you used on it on me like a year ago, tho I still won that one, it did leave a lasting impression. then you used it on @Adam514, which was the ultimate test lol

    not sure if you’re the first to have came up with it, but if so, well, you know what they say? mimicry is the highest form of flattery ;)

  • '19

    @axis-dominion Whether or not I am the first to ever try it I dont know but I never saw anyone else use it. Been trying to think through something to do about it now but at this point there just arent any options other than hiding and let Japan have fun.

    I think your record against me is pretty one sided when I have been axis, but I think I have done pretty well against you as allies so we will see.

    Will give up and go with my best effort later tonight.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15

    Please describe to the crowd. Whats the big deal? Its a J3 DOW and Japan will save all trannies (i guess).And?

  • '19

    @oysteilo Force allies out of position, save all transports, easily take down every axis target on J3 and retain/attain complete control of pacific with basically no sacrifice on Japans part. Whats not to like?

    Not impossible for that to happen with other openings if allies are played in some silly way but there is basically nothing allies can do to prevent in this case. Not saying its game over but definitely puts Japan into a fantastic position - no luck required. And J3 is great for europe as well.

  • '15 '14

    @oysteilo I agree. Also, Allies get something in return: Anzac saves tranny, Guam fig can be evacuated, India gets a ton of extra money (I prefer taking Sumatra, too).


  • @jdow said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):

    @oysteilo I agree. Also, Allies get something in return: Anzac saves tranny, Guam fig can be evacuated, India gets a ton of extra money (I prefer taking Sumatra, too).

    not sure how the Anzac tp will be saved, it can’t escape in time with a J3. but Japan on the other hand saves all of its own tps. Guam fig is ok, but there are of course tradeoffs. india gets a good amount of money, but then America doesn’t. Germany and italy have more time and freedom as well.

  • '22

    This match is to be followed as a Champions League final :)

  • '19

    @jdow Saving the anzac tranny isnt a given - where can it go and stay safe?

    the rest of what you are saying is true of all J3 DOWs. So one is welcome to debate J2 vs J3 but this is a specific J3 opening and I think you would be hard pressed to come up with a better J3.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17 '16 '15

    @ksmckay if you ARE THAT worried about this why dont you put two armor and two mech in Kasakstan and 2 fighters and 1 tac in moscow round 1? instead you run away from szechewan with your tail between your legs?

  • '19

    @oysteilo sounds like you have it all figured out, not certain why you bothered asking a question, I’m sorry for responding.

  • '19

    TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
            7 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Chinese attack with 7 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 7 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Suiyuyan
                Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Hopei
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                 retreated to Hopei
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Suiyuyan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
                  UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 94 Sea Zone
                British attack with 4 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                    British roll dice for 4 fighters in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 94 Sea Zone
                British win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Egypt
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                  British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Iceland to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Iceland to Gibraltar
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 123 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
    
        Place Units - British
            1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            1 airfield and 1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
    
        Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1
            British collect 27 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            7 infantry placed in India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 7 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0.67
    Italians regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : 1.00
    British regular : 0.00
    

    Savegame

  • '19

    @axis-dominion just an FYI that I dont ever plan on leaving the UK bb alone and abandoned. So if you see it so, I would appreciate a reminder as I tend to forget to move it until Anzac rolls along.


  • @ksmckay said in 2020 Championship: axis-dominion vs ksmckay (+22):

    @axis-dominion just an FYI that I dont ever plan on leaving the UK bb alone and abandoned. So if you see it so, I would appreciate a reminder as I tend to forget to move it until Anzac rolls along.

    of course

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