L21 #3 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #3 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    The Battle Calculator is indicating a CV defends at 1, not 2. Does the BC have a glitch or did the rule for a defending CV change, and if so, when?

    That change was implemented a long time ago. Not sure when though.


  • Actually, I think it was already implemented when P2V was first released, because of the carrier-scramble.


  • @trulpen

    I did not see the change in the PTV Notes. Where was this change in the rules posted?




  • @trulpen

    Thanks for the information.

    I will try to get back to our game later today or tomorrow.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from French Guiana to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Wake Island
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 marines
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield and 1 marine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Wake Island, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 marine in Wake Island, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 marine owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Wake Island
                Americans win, taking Wake Island from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 marine
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Morocco
            3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 32 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 5 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 31 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 fighter placed in Western United States
            1 airfield placed in Morocco
            1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 104 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kansu to Inner Mongolia
            1 fighter moved from Kansu to Inner Mongolia
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Inner Mongolia
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Inner Mongolia
                Chinese win, taking Inner Mongolia from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            10 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Inner Mongolia to Northern Sinkiang
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Northern Sinkiang
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 6 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to French Madagascar
            1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 bomber moved from Morocco to 98 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Crete
            Battle in French Madagascar
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone
                British win, taking Crete from Italians, taking French Madagascar from Neutral_Axis with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 4/22 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from French Guiana to 90 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northeast Persia
                  British take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq
            2 artilleries moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 marine moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom
    
        Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Iraq
            1 armour placed in Egypt
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 100 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
            UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.17
    Americans regular : -1.50
    Italians regular : 0.67
    Japanese regular : 0.00
    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : -1.67
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from French Guiana to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Wake Island
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 marines
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield and 1 marine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Wake Island, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 marine in Wake Island, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 marine owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Wake Island
                Americans win, taking Wake Island from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 marine
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 fighters in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Morocco
            3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 32 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 31 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 5 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 31 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 fighter placed in Western United States
            1 airfield placed in Morocco
            1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 104 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kansu to Inner Mongolia
            1 fighter moved from Kansu to Inner Mongolia
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Inner Mongolia
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Inner Mongolia
                Chinese win, taking Inner Mongolia from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            10 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang
            1 fighter moved from Inner Mongolia to Northern Sinkiang
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Northern Sinkiang
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 6 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to 83 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to French Madagascar
            1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 bomber moved from Morocco to 98 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Crete
            Battle in French Madagascar
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 98 Sea Zone
                British win, taking Crete from Italians, taking French Madagascar from Neutral_Axis with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 4/22 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from French Guiana to 90 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northeast Persia
                  British take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq
            2 artilleries moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 marine moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom
    
        Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Iraq
            1 armour placed in Egypt
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 100 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
            UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 109 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 113 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.17
    Americans regular : -1.50
    Italians regular : 0.67
    Japanese regular : 0.00
    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : -1.67
    

    Savegame


  • @artofwar1947

    Assumed no scramble to defend DD in SZ 113 or 98 as both had over a 90% chance of Ally win.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #3 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @artofwar1947

    Assumed no scramble to defend DD in SZ 113 or 98 as both had over a 90% chance of Ally win.

    That’s very reasonable.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to Tobruk
            1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Tobruk
            EDIT: Italians undo move 9.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 8.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 7.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 6.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 5.
            EDIT: 1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
            EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
            EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0,17
    British regular : 0,67
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 5

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
            2 fighters moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
    
        Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Marshall Islands
                ANZAC attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Marshall Islands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Marshall Islands
                ANZAC win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Japanese regular : 0.67
    ANZAC regular : -0.67
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 6

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
                  Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
                  Germans take Bryansk from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to 117 Sea Zone
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,17
    Germans regular : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • Wanted to attack z117 with a sub and sb.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 6

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
                  Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
                  Germans take Bryansk from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to 117 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 117 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 117 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 117 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 117 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0,50
    Germans regular : -0,17
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
                  Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
                  Germans take Bryansk from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from 117 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to 117 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 114 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 95 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 117 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
            5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
            4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Southern Belarus
            10 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Leningrad
            1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Leningrad
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
            1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 116 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry placed in Romania
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,17
    Germans regular : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
                  Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
                  Germans take Bryansk from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from 117 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to 117 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 114 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 95 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 117 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
            1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
            5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
            4 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Southern Belarus
            10 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Leningrad
            1 aaGun moved from Vologda to Leningrad
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
            1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
            1 aaGun, 8 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 116 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry placed in Romania
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern Italy: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,17
    Germans regular : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • Last post, please. Built 1 fig in Paris instead of WG.


  • @trulpen

    Regarding the attack on DD and SS in SZ 133, the Germans got only a single hit in the first round. Although Max defense would dictate sinking the SS first and saving the DD, it is not clearly in the best interest of the Allies to do so. Yes, it guarantees that the Allies will have a 1/3 chance of getting a hit in the second round of sinking a DD instead of a 1/6 of doing so. However, a gambling man would consider the relative risks and rewards of the alternative. On its turn of the first round, here is almost a 50% (8/18) chance that Allies will score at least 1 hit (1/18 of both the DD and SS hitting; 5/18 of the DD only hitting; and 2/18 of the SS only hitting). If the Allies save the SS and score a hit, then the Germans are faced with a choice: Take the hit on their DD and let the US SS go or take the hit on an aircraft and face a 1/6 chance of losing its DD also. As it was, the UK DD missed, and the US SS hit has to go on the German DD.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #3 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    Regarding the attack on DD and SS in SZ 133, the Germans got only a single hit in the first round. Although Max defense would dictate sinking the SS first and saving the DD, it is not clearly in the best interest of the Allies to do so. Yes, it guarantees that the Allies will have a 1/3 chance of getting a hit in the second round of sinking a DD instead of a 1/6 of doing so. However, a gambling man would consider the relative risks and rewards of the alternative. On its turn of the first round, here is almost a 50% (8/18) chance that Allies will score at least 1 hit (1/18 of both the DD and SS hitting; 5/18 of the DD only hitting; and 2/18 of the SS only hitting). If the Allies save the SS and score a hit, then the Germans are faced with a choice: Take the hit on their DD and let the US SS go or take the hit on an aircraft and face a 1/6 chance of losing its DD also. As it was, the UK DD missed, and the US SS hit has to go on the German DD.

    That’s cool. I did it a bit quickly. You can edit in a sub.

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