Do strat bombers get a roll before the AA ?

@noneshallpass well then winning means that you would go first. problem solved

@noneshallpass thanks for the response.

Yes it’s right.

We don’t even get to debate issues anymore as HBG is too efficient on the Errata or FAQ !

@insanehoshi said in Alternative to AA gun fire being modified:

@jbuckbuddy said in Alternative to AA gun fire being modified:

so if AA guns were attacking wouldn’t they be affected?

Because when shooting planes, the AA gun doesn’t explicitly shoot at its attack/defence value.

The rule for an AA Gun is “An attacking or defending AA Artillery rolls one die for each opposing aircraft up to a maximum of three rolls and hits on a roll of “3” or less.” Note that here it doesn’t say “Gets three attacks” or " rolls at its attack value"; Its AA shots are explicitly at 3.

This means that its attack and defence value is completely incidental from its special AA ability.

Whether this is the correct interpretation of the designers intentions is up in the air, but RAW AA guns’ aa shots are not affected by terrain. However their attack and defence values would still be affected, so if there were no aircraft and they were going into mountains, they would get one shot @ 2.

Persuasive argument, Insane Hoshi! I agree this would mean AA Artillery is not affected by terrain, cities, fortifications, etc. However, you go on to say that AA Art’s attack and defense values “would still be affected.” If you read further in the description you quote, it says, “AA Artillery fire on the first round of combat only.”

My understanding is that AA Art fires specifically at aircraft.
They only fire on the first round of combat.
They get one die roll for each opposing aircraft up to a max of 3.
They hit on a “3” or less and aren’t affected by modifiers.
They do not get to roll against other units.

@cdatkins74
Yeah I’m inclined to agree too. I was just curious how other people were interpreting the rule.

That’s what GHG is making it sound like to me.

I definitely get your point, I think it’s a lot of fun to be able to select what you’d want to buy as the minor power. But I guess I understand from a “simplifying the rules” standpoint to make this happen.

That said, I wonder what’s more helpful to those nations. Take Greece for example. Do they have better odds of building a unit with their 1 IPP a turn (assuming that territory wasn’t captured right away, that is)? Or are they better off rolling a D12 and needing a 1, 2 or 3 (again, depending on what was or wasn’t taken) to get an infantry/2 militia? Greece conceivably has as a 25% chance to get a unit if no territory lost right away. Those are pretty decent odds.

@GeneralHandGrenade

Thank god for house rules because this rule is an overreaction that’ll make planes a waste of money.