Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16)


  • @Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17

    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 1 fighter, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/11 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            6 artilleries moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            5 artilleries moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            9 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Egypt
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun and 2 artilleries moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            15 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Egypt
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 fighter placed in Western Germany
            1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : -1.50
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Germans scrambles 1 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            7 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 armour, 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Yunnan
            6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
            Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
            Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 1.33
    Russians regular : 0.17
    

    Savegame


  • My forces stay in Amur.

    Japan is good to go.

    cheers


  • That sub in sz 120 gives me pain. But I hope it is destroyed soon ha :)


  • Yunnan stack has 43 units from 4 nations.


  • @farmboy said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

    @Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

    Well, I was refering to my UK strategy as well.

    I usually do not allow Italians to take Egypt, and do not have so much air and sea units in the Med.

    My default strategy before was attacking Taranto on UK1.

    And i suppose U dont buy Yugo airfield on G1 often.


  • @Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

    @farmboy said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

    @Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

    Well, I was refering to my UK strategy as well.

    I usually do not allow Italians to take Egypt, and do not have so much air and sea units in the Med.

    My default strategy before was attacking Taranto on UK1.

    And i suppose U dont buy Yugo airfield on G1 often.

    I sometimes do. I do try to protect the Italian fleet as much as I can (and especially if Taranto isn’t done.) A reason I always want the Germans to take Yugo is to make sure that they can share the spending load with the Italians in defending it.

    The British carrier was an interesting bid. And it changes the situation in the Med a fair bit. I had thought you would more likely go for Taranto since it entailed either a more difficult trade for the German air after or that you could do Taranto and keep a portion of hte British fleet alive.

    I didn’t expect you to retreat from Egypt. I didn’t count the odds but was pretty sure you could hold it. I’ll be curious to see how that plays out. But in Europe I feel I have more room to maneuver than I do in the Pacific where I think Japan is already struggling. But still an early game.

    Will likely get to my turn tomorrow (although I am due to play the turn in my other game first).


  • Well, my plan was to threaten the Adriatic heavily, but the problem with parking the UK fleet there is that that battle is always risky + the Axis can choose to scramble or choose to not to.

    Other maybe even crucial problem is that i cant hold Greece. Even if I take it, Italy and/or Germany can retake it, and if U attack my navy in the Adriatic i have a problem with my planes unable to land, so i have to keep ACs undamaged till the end of the battle, which severely decreaces my odds.


  • Then i decided to stack in sz 93 since i can merge with French dudes there.

    But U ve decided to trigger Vichy to prevent it, all though it cost U a fig, and will cost U some IPCs (allies taking French territories).
    But u gain early gains with destruction of my French navy, and with IPCs and units in NW Africa.

    Then, my plan was slightly disrupted, and I was planing to attack Adriatic, but with Ur blocker and Yugo airfield U were able to prevent it.

    I am not sure if i could defend Egypt. Maybe I would, but then I would have my navy much more exposed to ur forces.

    I decided to go this way. We shall see if it payes out.


  • If i understood well from Ur posts, some dude attack Yugo with Italy?

    Yeah, i like the Egypt AC bid. It gives a lot of options to UK.

  • 2023 '22 '21 '20 '19 '18 '17

    TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi
            2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Borneo
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Sumatra
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra
                Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kiangsi
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kiangsi, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kiangsi
                Japanese win, taking Kiangsi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Malaya
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour, 4 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
            1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Manchuria
            1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Japan to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 marine moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Malaya to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to 43 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Manchuria
            1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 41 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 43 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : -0.33
    Japanese regular : -2.00
    UK_Pacific regular : -0.67
    ANZAC regular : -0.67
    

    Savegame


  • @Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

    If i understood well from Ur posts, some dude attack Yugo with Italy?

    Yeah, i like the Egypt AC bid. It gives a lot of options to UK.

    Yeah. Its an option I see sometimes. I used to do it as well when I did a G2 DOW since you could attack Yugo with Germany and then retreat German units East so that they are at the front quicker.

    And I wasn’t planning on Vichy, but your setup forced me into it.


  • @farmboy

    Yes, I know U havent planned Vichy, but my UK sz 93 move was the trigger for U to go for it I suppose.

    And this thing with moving units to Romania via Yugo on G1. Interesting.


  • A perfect move for Japan. Without a single casualty.


  • And Trade with America in Rd3. That is rare to be seen.


  • Now i see why I decided to evac Egypt. I was planning to pull my navy to sz 92, and stack Egypt with plains. But the problem was, U could take Algeria with Italy, and then all of Ur German air could attack sz 92 and land in Algeria.

    In other words, to save Egypt I would have to leave the Med with UK fleet.


  • @Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

    Now i see why I decided to evac Egypt. I was planning to pull my navy to sz 92, and stack Egypt with plains. But the problem was, U could take Algeria with Italy, and then all of Ur German air could attack sz 92 and land in Algeria.

    In other words, to save Egypt I would have to leave the Med with UK fleet.

    and other thing was Sea Lion. If i moved the navy out of Med, but entire airforce to Egypt, it could jeopardise London too.

    But key reason was the navy being still held in the Med. Was i wrong with that decision, time will tell.


  • Very busy this week, but i ll try to play ASAP

    cheers


  • @Amon-Sul it will be hard for me to hold it in the short term, so still might be the right decision.

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