axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3

farmboy

That was quite the surprising move. I’m glad I at least beat the average in 92, although that was still a disaster.

axis-dominion

@farmboy said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

That was quite the surprising move. I’m glad I at least beat the average in 92, although that was still a disaster.

yah you definitely did well in that battle considering the expected average.

going forward, will be hard for allies to make any progress on axis from the seas, unless of course, America puts in a lot of tonnage in the atlantic

italy should now become a super power from here

farmboy

Very clever in Novgorod as well

axis-dominion

Man the dice were quite spooky there in Novgorod

farmboy

@axis-dominion payment for my relatively better dice in 92

farmboy

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Chile
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Argentina
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Venezuela
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Sweden
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Switzerland
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Spain
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Portugal
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Turkey
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Saudi Arabia
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Afghanistan
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Mozambique
        Trigger Russians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttachment attached to Angola
        Trigger Russians Friendly Mongolians1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
        Trigger Russians Friendly TrueNeutral: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
        Trigger Russians Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
              Russians take Kazakhstan from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
              Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
              Russians take Ukraine from Italians
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
        4 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
        4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
        2 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
              Russians take Caucasus from Germans
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
              Russians take Northwest Persia from Italians

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Novgorod
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 marine
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Novgorod, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 marine owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
            Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine
        Battle in Belarus
            Russians attack with 6 artilleries and 25 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians roll dice for 6 artilleries and 25 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 4/31 hits, 7.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 6 artilleries and 25 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 51 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        10 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar
              Russians take Ulaanbaatar from Mongolians
        1 aaGun and 7 infantry moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar

    Place Units - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Ulaanbaatar: 1 aaGun and 7 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Yakut S.S.R.: 1 aaGun and 7 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        10 infantry placed in Russia
        1 infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
Russians regular : -6.33

Savegame

farmboy

it worked out in the end but the bad dice in Novgorod continued.

axis-dominion

wait, Mongolia becomes friendly neutral??

farmboy

I think so

farmboy

This is what the rules say. The relevant bit is the last paragraph.

Soviet-Mongolian Defense Pact: Due to their mutual border conflict with Japan in 1939, the Soviet Union and Mongolia
have a special relationship. The Mongolian territories (Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and Buyant-Uhaa) will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union. Also, if Japan attacks any Soviet-controlled territory that is adjacent to any Mongolian territory, all Mongolian territories that are still strict neutral or pro-Allies, or have joined the Allies as a result of a failed Japanese attack, are placed under the control of the Soviet Union at the end of Japan’s Conduct Combat phase. This is done in the same manner as though the Soviet Union had moved land units into a friendly neutral territory (see “Friendly Neutrals,” page 10). These territories have Soviet control markers placed on them, and their standing army units are placed on the board using Soviet pieces and are controlled by the Soviet Union player from then on. This occurs regardless of the state of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan at the time of the attack, with one exception: If the Soviet Union attacks Korea or any Japan-controlled territory bordering these Mongolian territories while Mongolia is still a strict neutral, Mongolia will remain neutral and not ally itself with the Soviet Union.

In all other respects and for all other purposes, the Mongolian territories are treated as any other strict neutral territory. For
example, if a Mongolian territory is attacked by Japan while still a strict neutral, all of the other strict neutral territories will
become pro-Allies.

axis-dominion

I am reading it differently, i.e., that once Russia breaks the pact while Mongolia is still strict neutral, Mongolia will always remain strict neutral. (see bolded statement below)

@Adam514 or @gamerman01 can one of you confirm this for us?

@farmboy said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

Soviet-Mongolian Defense Pact: Due to their mutual border conflict with Japan in 1939, the Soviet Union and Mongolia
have a special relationship. The Mongolian territories (Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and Buyant-Uhaa) will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union. Also, if Japan attacks any Soviet-controlled territory that is adjacent to any Mongolian territory, all Mongolian territories that are still strict neutral or pro-Allies, or have joined the Allies as a result of a failed Japanese attack, are placed under the control of the Soviet Union at the end of Japan’s Conduct Combat phase. This is done in the same manner as though the Soviet Union had moved land units into a friendly neutral territory (see “Friendly Neutrals,” page 10). These territories have Soviet control markers placed on them, and their standing army units are placed on the board using Soviet pieces and are controlled by the Soviet Union player from then on. This occurs regardless of the state of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan at the time of the attack, with one exception: If the Soviet Union attacks Korea or any Japan-controlled territory bordering these Mongolian territories while Mongolia is still a strict neutral, Mongolia will remain neutral and not ally itself with the Soviet Union.
In all other respects and for all other purposes, the Mongolian territories are treated as any other strict neutral territory. For
example, if a Mongolian territory is attacked by Japan while still a strict neutral, all of the other strict neutral territories will
become pro-Allies.

Adam514

From what I read here, the only way for Mongolia to become pro-Allied apart from Japan invading a neighboring territory is to be directly attacked by an Axis power. I think Mongolia stays neutral even if Axis declare war on true neutrals.

axis-dominion

thanks Adam, and yah that’s how I always understood it as well. @farmboy is that rule interpretation good enough, or would you rather wait on gamerman to weigh in as well?

farmboy

I wouldn’t mind getting a second opinion (unless Adam and you feel quite certain). I do read that passage as saying that when Japan attacks adjacent soviet territories, the specific Mongol rules are enacted with the following exception … but that the rules governing neutrality still apply in all other circumstances. So my attack on Manchuria negated the Mongol rules, but did not effect Mongolia’s strict neutrality which now comes into effect. If that makes sense.

But because it is only 1 inf at the moment, I don’t want to drag this out unnecessarily. Why don’t we continue (I will just retreat my inf with the others) and then we can reevaluate in the event that Gamerman’s ruling is different.

axis-dominion

@farmboy said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

I wouldn’t mind getting a second opinion (unless Adam and you feel quite certain). I do read that passage as saying that when Japan attacks adjacent soviet territories, the specific Mongol rules are enacted with the following exception … but that the rules governing neutrality still apply in all other circumstances. So my attack on Manchuria negated the Mongol rules, but did not effect Mongolia’s strict neutrality which now comes into effect. If that makes sense.

But because it is only 1 inf at the moment, I don’t want to drag this out unnecessarily. Why don’t we continue (I will just retreat my inf with the others) and then we can reevaluate in the event that Gamerman’s ruling is different.

ok sounds good, I’ll continue. we’ll see what @gamerman01 rules when he becomes available

axis-dominion

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4.0

Game History

Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 fighter, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
              Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha
              Japanese take Sakha from Russians
        1 marine moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        2 battleships, 2 cruisers and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 38 Sea Zone to Shan State
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Shan State
        1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Hopei
        2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 fighter moved from Amur to Chahar
        1 fighter moved from Japan to Chahar
        2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Anhwe to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Japanese creates battle in territory 42 Sea Zone
        Battle in 21 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 21 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in Chahar
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Chahar, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Chahar, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
            Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Hopei
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hopei, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
            Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in 44 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 44 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British roll AA dice in Yunnan : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 marine
            British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 aaGun
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships and 2 cruisers in Shan State, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the ANZAC, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 aaGun
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour moved from Hunan to Szechwan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Hopei to French Indo China
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 35 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Chahar to Anhwe
        2 fighters moved from Chahar to Anhwe
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to French Indo China
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe
        1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu
        3 infantry placed in French Indo China
        3 infantry placed in Malaya
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : 0.50
British AA : -0.50
UK_Pacific regular : -0.67
ANZAC regular : 0.83

Savegame

gamerman01

Hi guys -

Mongolia does go pro-Allies just like all the rest of the strict neutrals in the world when Italy attacks Turkey and Spain (round 9).

You are correct, Axis-dominion, in saying that when Russia breaks the pact, Mongolia will remain a strict neutral. And like all other strict neutrals, it goes pro-Allied if the Axis break strict neutrality. It doesn’t mean that Mongolia will continue to be strict neutral all by itself even if strict neutrality is broken by the Axis elsewhere later, it means Mongolia will remain strict neutral at the time of the Russians breaking the pact.

gamerman01

If this helps too,
Mongolia will never become pro-Axis unless they are attacked directly by the Soviet Union (2nd sentence of those rules), so if UK or US attacks Spain or Turkey for example, Mongolia does not go pro-Axis.

Then the 3rd sentence starting with “Also, if Japan attacks…” to the end of the monster paragraph is all about the conditions that would or would not cause all of Mongolia to become instantly Russian.

Then the 2nd paragraph in the rules starting with “in all other respects” means other than Russia directly attacking Mongolia, and other than all of Mongolia going instant Russian, Mongolia is a normal strict neutral, same as Afghanistan, Turkey, or Venezuela.

<added later> - (and also other than the fact that Mongolia will never go pro-Axis unless directly attacked by Russia)

axis-dominion

@gamerman01 said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

If this helps too,
Mongolia will never become pro-Axis unless they are attacked directly by the Soviet Union (2nd sentence of those rules), so if UK or US attacks Spain or Turkey for example, Mongolia does not go pro-Axis.

Then the 3rd sentence starting with “Also, if Japan attacks…” to the end of the monster paragraph is all about the conditions that would or would not cause all of Mongolia to become instantly Russian.

Then the 2nd paragraph in the rules starting with “in all other respects” means other than Russia directly attacking Mongolia, and other than all of Mongolia going instant Russian, Mongolia is a normal strict neutral, same as Afghanistan, Turkey, or Venezuela.

ok thank you for clarifying gamer! glad farm boy insisted on getting a second opinion, and you are one of the rules official after all. so I think at least Adam and I learned something new hear, and farm boy got confirmation for what he thought all along.

axis-dominion

@axis-dominion said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

@gamerman01 said in axis-dominion vs farmboy (allies+12) bm3:

If this helps too,
Mongolia will never become pro-Axis unless they are attacked directly by the Soviet Union (2nd sentence of those rules), so if UK or US attacks Spain or Turkey for example, Mongolia does not go pro-Axis.

Then the 3rd sentence starting with “Also, if Japan attacks…” to the end of the monster paragraph is all about the conditions that would or would not cause all of Mongolia to become instantly Russian.

Then the 2nd paragraph in the rules starting with “in all other respects” means other than Russia directly attacking Mongolia, and other than all of Mongolia going instant Russian, Mongolia is a normal strict neutral, same as Afghanistan, Turkey, or Venezuela.

ok thank you for clarifying gamer! glad farm boy insisted on getting a second opinion, and you are one of the rules official after all. so I think at least Adam and I learned something new hear, and farm boy got confirmation for what he thought all along.

man I can’t spell lol

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