ksmckay(x) vs Axis-Dominion P2V

Sorry for delay. This is such a complicated map. Scramble to Bry from Kur/Rus?

sorry, im actually going to change purchase to purchase nothing.

otherwise same move.

Yeah who knows at this point.

I don’t like doing an attack like this but I cant come up with anything better. Europe was already ugly and if I dont get to Bry this turn I dont think I ever will, and so I think Europe is done. Pacific is obviously in better shape but I dont think I can blitz for a win so I think I have to go for this. And unfortunately, I also think you had no choice but to scramble.

Can’t roll till later. Do you want round by round casualties or can I assume AA, UK air, Russian air. Italy has to take it with ground, otherwise french can fly there to prevent blitz.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 13 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk
              Italians take Smolensk from Russians
        1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk

    Combat - Italians
        Russians scrambles 3 units out of Kursk to defend against the attack in Bryansk
        Russians scrambles 3 units out of Russia to defend against the attack in Bryansk
        Battle in Bryansk
            Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 4 fighters; Russians defend with 2 aaGuns and 3 fighters
                AA fire in Bryansk : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns and 7 fighters in Bryansk, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                2 aaGuns owned by the Russians, 2 fighters owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 3 fighters owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Bryansk, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 fighters in Bryansk, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Russians, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Italians, 1 fighter owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Bryansk
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Bryansk, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Bryansk, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Bryansk, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Bryansk, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bryansk
            Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
            Casualties for Italians: 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for British: 4 fighters
            Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns and 2 fighters
        Moving scrambled unit from Bryansk back to originating territory: Russia

    Non Combat Move - Italians

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,1,4,6,3,3,2,1,4,4,1,1,5,6,3,4,1,6,5,1,5
        Italians collect 3 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

AA fire in Bryansk : : 0.00
Italians : -0.00
Russians : 1.33

Savegame

almost :(

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
              Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
        1 armour moved from Vologda to Komi
              Germans take Gorky from Russians
              Germans take Komi from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bessarabia to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        2 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

any scrambles?

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
              Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
        1 armour moved from Vologda to Komi
              Germans take Gorky from Russians
              Germans take Komi from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bessarabia to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        2 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Northern Italy
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Northern Italy
            Germans win, taking Northern Italy from British with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yugoslavia
            Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from British with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys
            French defend with 1 fighter
                Germans roll dice for 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys in Bryansk, round 2 : 21/75 hits, 25.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in Bryansk
            Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 25 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 fighter
        Battle in Bulgaria
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Bulgaria
            Germans win, taking Bulgaria from British with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bulgaria to Eastern Poland
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to France
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
        4 aaGuns moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
        1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        2 armour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Normandy Bordeaux: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4,6,6,4,3,6,6,3,3,4,4,5,2,5,4,2,6,6,4,5,2,1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4,3,2,6,4
        Germans collect 54 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -1.83
British : 0.33
Russians : 0.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl
              Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
        1 armour moved from Vologda to Komi
              Germans take Gorky from Russians
              Germans take Komi from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Northern Italy
        3 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bessarabia to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        2 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Northern Italy
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Northern Italy
            Germans win, taking Northern Italy from British with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yugoslavia
            Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from British with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys
            French defend with 1 fighter
                Germans roll dice for 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys in Bryansk, round 2 : 21/75 hits, 25.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in Bryansk
            Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 21 armour, 7 artilleries, 25 infantry and 21 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 fighter
        Battle in Bulgaria
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Bulgaria
            Germans win, taking Bulgaria from British with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to France
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
        4 aaGuns moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
        1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bulgaria to Bessarabia
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia

    Place Units - Germans
        2 armour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in France
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        Germans undo move 2.
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 2.
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        2 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,6,4,5,3,6,6,4,3,3,6,3,5,5,1,5,6,4,5,3,1,1,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,4,4,4,6
        Germans collect 54 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -1.83
British : 0.33
Russians : 0.33

Savegame

ha, looks like very bad rolls. I figured I didnt have any better options and even if you won, I might be ok just because your forces would be depleted. But I was done with this game anyway.

I wanted to see what happened with a southern attack in europe. I dont think it works without a g1 ground purchase. If g1 naval build, I think germany has to go north. I had a small chance but not a very good one, but then a forgotten move or two completely ruined the push.

In the pac, I think going after Australia is a risky move. I think its solid if US goes light in pacific but I think if US balances the two theaters, its not the greatest move. In this game, with better dice in NSW I think you were hosed in pacific.

Ive been really busy and this game requires more thought, but I do like it. But now isnt the time for it for me. Ill probably put P2V on hold for a bit.

this being only my second game, I am not sure. Its definitely Global on steroids, but thats ok I think. I used to love Anniversary, and then global came out which was super complex and fun. But its complexity made it a different game with a different level of commitment. This amps it up a bit more.

I like that its different and engages me in new ways. but definitely the thought of a 30 round game with this level of complexity feels a bit much. I think 15-20 is the sweet spot for me. But perhaps this isnt that different, just takes some getting used to.