Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3

if u dont want to dice for me, np

i ll do it from home when i find time.

cheers

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

riskiest uk1 I have probably ever seen.

ur german navy sucess didnt left me much choice

total annihilation in sz 97

only my sub survived.

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 carriers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Western United States
        1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Western United States
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to Western United States
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Western United States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
        1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
        1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Central United States

    Place Units - Americans
        3 carriers placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 56 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Suiyuyan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Hunan: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Hunan from Japanese to Chinese
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Yunnan: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Yunnan from Japanese to Chinese
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan
        5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy nothing; Remaining resources: 17 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 106 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 119 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq

    Combat - British
        Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 97 Sea Zone
        Battle in Iraq
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Iraq, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
            British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
        Battle in 106 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 2 submarines
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
        Battle in 118 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 118 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 118 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 118 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 fighter; Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Italians roll dice for 3 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 3 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Italians and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter in 97 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Syria
        1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
              British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 marine moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
              UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
        3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 106 Sea Zone to Quebec
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
        1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Burma to India
        1 infantry moved from Burma to India

    Place Units - British
        2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.83
British : 2.50
Italians : -0.17
Neutral_Axis : 0.00

Savegame

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

Id say that was a pretty lucky UK1.

well, yes everything besides sz 97 went perfect, but truth to be said, ur subs and destroyers have low combat value, so not a big luck.

iraq, was average too.

sz 97 slightly worse then expected but still ok, overall i am content.

italy may proceed when ready

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

better than 50/50 one of my sub hits, in which case you are in big trouble in atlantic. And then winning in 97 without the cruiser and cv is pretty good too. But really its the combination of a bunch of semi risky battles all winning and the fact that losing any of them is a major blow that makes it lucky.

i had +14 in s7 97

i ended up with +8

@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

better than 50/50 one of my sub hits, in which case you are in big trouble in atlantic. And then winning in 97 without the cruiser and cv is pretty good too. But really its the combination of a bunch of semi risky battles all winning and the fact that losing any of them is a major blow that makes it lucky.

i had +14 in s7 97

i ended up with +8

so its slightly unlucky for that battle

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

better than 50/50 one of my sub hits, in which case you are in big trouble in atlantic. And then winning in 97 without the cruiser and cv is pretty good too. But really its the combination of a bunch of semi risky battles all winning and the fact that losing any of them is a major blow that makes it lucky.

yes, but its still around 50 %. sub sucks on defense

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

better than 50/50 one of my sub hits, in which case you are in big trouble in atlantic. And then winning in 97 without the cruiser and cv is pretty good too. But really its the combination of a bunch of semi risky battles all winning and the fact that losing any of them is a major blow that makes it lucky.

i decided that its worth the (small) risks, and i let ur battleship live.

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

67% chance one of my subs hits. only slightly worse than your odds for winning 97.

but even if one sub scored a hit, i go on. its not the end of the world.

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

and just to be clear I am not complaining about anything. Just stating facts. I just prefer not to lose on UK1 if possible and so would never be so aggressive. But we all get to do what we want.

i understand . np. feel free to comment. i like statistics too :)

@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:

and just to be clear I am not complaining about anything. Just stating facts. I just prefer not to lose on UK1 if possible and so would never be so aggressive. But we all get to do what we want.

i dont like italy. i like to smash their navy. and i dont like german subs, so its personal :grin: