Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Norway to 97 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Norway to Germany
        2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        2 fighters moved from Norway to Finland

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                AA fire in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Germany causes 6 damage total. 
        Battle in Greece
        Battle in Finland
            Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
            Americans win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Finland from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 fighters moved from Finland to Norway
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway
        1 aaGun moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
        2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 92 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Norway
        1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 32 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 32 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 33 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        3 infantry placed in Norway
        2 bombers placed in Eastern United States
        1 infantry placed in Central United States
        2 tactical_bombers placed in Western United States
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 59 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Hopei
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hunan
            Chinese attack with 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
            Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Hopei
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
            Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Kweichow
            Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        4 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
        1 fighter moved from Hopei to Shensi

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        2 infantry placed in Shensi
        Chinese undo move 1.
        1 infantry placed in Shensi

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Persia to West India
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
        1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
              Chinese take Suiyuyan from Japanese

    Combat - British
        Battle in West India
            British attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in West India, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in West India, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in West India
            British win, taking West India from Japanese with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to 80 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from West India to Persia
        1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 carrier moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 81 Sea Zone to Persia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Greece
        7 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
        3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Norway to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 aaGun moved from Algeria to Tunisia
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
        1 battleship moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
        1 submarine moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia

    Place Units - British
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 80 Sea Zone
        1 airfield placed in Persia

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 31 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 97 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 92 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 80 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 80 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 97 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 2 artilleries
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 2 artilleries
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Trans-Jordan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Trans-Jordan: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Iraq: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Persia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0,33
British : 1,50
Americans : -0,33
Chinese : -0,17
Japanese : 1,00
AA fire in Germany : : -0,17

Savegame

Nice to see the Italian income finally reduced to a small value. I will be interested to see if Germany focuses on attacking Moscow, the Middle East, Greece, or Sweden. So many areas in trouble and only resources to focus on one at a time.

@trulpen Is moscow on the roadmap anytime soon? I don’t see that Germany+Italy can overcome the stalemate on the Eastern Front unless they get their income up. The only way to get that up is to reclaim Norway. The Med is lost.

I would attack Finland with ground troops and strafe Norway with the air force in the hope of getting lucky on G8. Perhaps send 18 mechs towards Greece that can be backed up with additional plane build. He needs to avoid the meat grinder in the Middle East.

I reran the numbers and he actually could capture Moscow on G9 if he goes all out next round in preparation. He likely wouldn’t lose any of his air force during the raid, although insufficient ground units would exist to follow up for a run towards Egypt unless the dice heavily favor him.

The final push to the capitol would leave a big gap in the other fronts that the Allies would have three rounds to exploit. You would have room to establish a third beachhead in S France. I probably would take the gamble if I were Axis as there are few options to regain income now unless Moscow falls ASAP.

@trulpen depending exactly on how Italy tries to help out, there is about a 60% chance of capturing Moscow. Many of those statistical victories are Pyrrhic with too few ground units to continue protecting the Eastern Front from a UK counter-push. I would give him about a 30% chance to win Moscow and still have 10-20 tanks left to continue expansion towards the Middle East.

G9 is his most likely moment to capture Moscow until perhaps G14. I see a continued growth in allied defenses there as Russia adds another 10 infantry/turn and UK+USA can probably get another 4 fighters there / round. There is no way that Germany can devote another 32 attack points/round of additional forces there while trading off units in Scandinavia, the Balkans, and the Caucuses.

Hence his only choices for victory is a G9 desperation assault or a long-game economic win. In such a case the fastest way to gain income would be recapturing Scandinavia, capturing and holding Caucuses, and conquering China. The trifecta is likely required if he wants to make progress in unit value.

Germany’s odds on G9 if they go all in are 39%. The Italians get 2-3 hits on average in a suicidal attack, and that only pushes the odds to 50% or a little better. I don’t think that is worth the risk. A loss is game ending, and in the event of a win, the effort opens up the rest of Europe to the Allies. But still, we should have been considering the possibility of the Italians going in first.

Italy 7: Is my capitol safe? Yes. The US has a 6 infantry, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 bomber attack plus a cruiser bombard followed by a UK 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 armor, 7 fighters and 1 tactical bomber attack plus a 3 cruiser and battleship bombard. Luckily UK has a lot of planes but not a lot of ground troops and US has a lot of ground troops but not a lot of planes. So realistically Italy has enough to hold already since I doubt the Allies would squander their Allied air force just to take out Rome. Even with no reinforcements and an all-out US sacrifice the Allies have about a 60% chance of taking it. Why do that when Italy is already out of the game? So, I can use my two planes elsewhere if I want and still be safe with a new build. The main problem is anything in Northern Italy is dead so can only build 3 units. That will not be a problem next Turn since Italy is going to be broke anyway so may save some money.

So, what to do? The Italian fleet is dead therefore do I attack SZ92 to get the most bang for my buck? 31% chance but I lose both planes and on average kill 5 units. That means most likely, SS, 2 DD, CA, CV with both fighters and both transports surviving. But without that I probably kill just a couple of subs when he attacks me. So, is it worth a fighter and a bomber to on average kill $50 instead of $12 with the hope of the lucky 30% winner take all? Maybe…

Greece is the only other target. A mere 13% chance there and most likely I am not even killing a plane. Since Germany has no ground troops nearby even a strafe is useless especially since the French are going to land 2 infantry there after the Italian attack. And with no Italians there the Allies will break out. Nope – not Greece.

So SZ92 or nothing. If I do nothing can I hold Bulgaria? Probably. US has no real attack and the UK attack is again mostly planes. So, if I hold Bulgaria then that minimizes the southern threat. That is good but then I lose the Italian fleet on the cheap. So, the comparison is try and kill a few more ships on the sea that I have already lost or try and protect land that I still own. Protecting land seems the better way to go. Bye-bye Italian Navy.

In Northern Africa make sure the Allies do not clear off the Italian ground troops so Russia can claim Tobruk and Libya. Already Russia is getting too much money from Africa. Italy did not do their job this game. Got too cocky early on with all that money and did not protect its territories the way it should have. Costing the Axis now. Bad, bad Italy.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
        1 battleship and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Italians
        2 fighters placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,6,4,4,3,4,6,5,4,5,3,2,6,6,4,1,4,6,6,2
        Italians collect 8 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            ANZAC win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 artillery moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 15 PUs

    Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from Eastern Persia to 79 Sea Zone

    Combat - French
        Battle in 79 Sea Zone
            French attack with 1 fighter
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 79 Sea Zone
            French win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from 79 Sea Zone to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0,33

Savegame

@trulpenplay Do you want to take some of those ANZAC fighters off of the US carrier? At some point you might want the additional offensive power of having the USA fighters.

Also, do you want to grab Celebes this round? It seems worth it to exchange equal value of ANZAC and Japan.

Perhaps a few ANZAC fighters in Queensland can be used to take out Japanese destroyer which is used to kill your sub.

My only suggestion would be to change the buy to include a transport for ANZAC. Maybe 2 SS + tran or tran+inf+ftr. It keeps pressure on J to defend DEI plus whatever else the Caroline group wants to attack.