Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB

I like the move to Finland. Sets up a grinder in the north. Need to kill German units. Pretty much the same in Tunisia

Sorry to bring up old info, I thought you had backed of Tambov and reinforced Samara? Just curious to find out your thinking since this is a learning game.

Is the UK 6 Turn finalized yet?

Are the two French infantry on a US or UK transport?

Italy 6: Is my capital safe? The US has a 4 infantry, 2 mech, artillery and cruiser bombard followed by a UK 3 infantry, armor, 2 fighter and 2 cruiser + battleship bombard. Need significant forces to defend against that.

Strategy: So, Africa is lost and the Russians are having a heyday. Italy did not do its job properly. Let’s at least try to stop any further bleeding by not staying in Libya where the US can smash those forces leaving Tobruk for the Russkies. Recapture the Continent and send help to the Eastern Front then sit behind sandbags and watch the massive Allied fleet steam around in the Med.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Libya to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
              Italians take Normandy Bordeaux from Americans
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 93 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 submarine
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the British lost in 93 Sea Zone
            Italians win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
        Battle in Southern France
            Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France
            Italians win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Italians attack with 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            Italians win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Volgograd
        2 armour moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
        5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from France to Southern France
        7 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4
        Italians collect 19 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 2.00
British : -0.17
Americans : 1.33

Savegame

I think it was a mistake to stick the fleet in 93. the allies might very well destroy it anyway, but they would have to work harder to do so, and get pulled more out of position, if it was in 97.

@farmboy said in Tutor game: AndrewAAGamer (X) vs trulpen [and everyone else] (A+50) OOB:

I think it was a mistake to stick the fleet in 93. the allies might very well destroy it anyway, but they would have to work harder to do so, and get pulled more out of position, if it was in 97.

Thank you for joining in on the conversation! So why move to SZ93 versus staying in SZ97? Bear in mind Germany has not gone yet. Once they do the entire Luftwaffe will be in position to hit both SZ93 and SZ97.

If the Italian Fleet stays in SZ97 they do get the benefit of a 3 fighter scramble. However, UK has such a massive combined fleet from SZ92 and SZ81 that the Axis would not scramble anyway against such an attack. So the advantage of staying is lost. By staying the US can stay in SZ91 continuing to threaten Normandy and Western Germany while the UK combines their fleet and wipes out the Italians and does convoy disruption on SZ97.

By moving to SZ93 the Allied fleet in SZ81 cannot not now hit the Italian Fleet. Thus any US+UK or UK only attack is far less than before which means that hopefully more losses will occur on the Allied side of the battle. Also with the German air force threat the UK will not be able to send only the SZ81 fleet to SZ97 or it will be wiped out. In addition, any fleet left over in SZ93 will also be at risk and any fleet in SZ93 must be balanced by some fleet in SZ91 or remove the threat of additional Allied landings.

Thus unless the Allies ignore the Italian fleet at the very least SZ97 will not be convoy disrupted as much as they would have been and perhaps one or more Allied units will die attacking the Italian fleet in SZ93. If even one more Allied unit dies and 4-5 more IPCs are collected by Italy than this would have been a successful move.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Java

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 16 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
        1 mech_infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Eastern Persia
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

@AndrewAAGamer I see your point. The fleet is done anyway and this gives it another turn perhaps or allows it to cause more attrition.

But if I’m the allies this turn, I probably would just stack 97 and take Greece (assuming both those can be held but it looks on the face of it that they could). I would wait to wipe out the Italian fleet for when I have my air and navy combined in 97 since they can’t go anywhere and can’t do any damage.

One thing to consider is that if the Germans hold Yugoslavia (or S France), you might have had more opportunities to save that fleet. Its often not worth it, but those become routes to get german units in the Med or to allow the Germans to build airbases to support the Italian fleet.

the anzac/french turn looks good to me.

I apologize for the delay. Things have been out of control busy-wise. I am going on vacation and will not be back for a week. I am unsure of my internet possibilities however if I can take my Turn while I am gone I will otherwise it will be a bit.

Ah, the full play-by-forum experience. I’m impressed.

(No, seriously, I’m impressed. This has been a great game.)

-Midnight_Reaper